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#11
05-19-2005, 10:30 PM
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Re: Much more skill in stratego than monopoly
I've got to say that there is a great deal of skill involved in monopoly. Bankroll manegment, don't blow your money as fast as it comes in if you have to cross a long stretch of high rent spaces. Probability, when decideding where to put houses in relation to where others tokens are and what is most likely to be rolled. Knowing your opponents and using that knowledge to your advantage in negotiations to best them. Yeah, there is the luck of the roll, but there is some skill there.
Monopoly and stratego where two of the games my family played at least once a week. I think stratego is more fun, but monopoly is always a good time. 
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#12
05-20-2005, 12:46 PM
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Re: Much more skill in stratego than monopoly
You need to distinguish between whether there's skill in a game, and how difficult the skill is to master.
Tic-tac-toe, for example, has no luck at all. But the strategy is so simple, any two reasonable people will tie every time. Monopoly does have an element of luck, and also an element of skill, but for the most part the strategy in monopoly is so simple, luck predominates. The exception is if you're trading properties - then it can get pretty complex. If you're playing against the types of players who are willing to trade, that is.
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#13
05-20-2005, 01:53 PM
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Re: Much more skill in stratego than monopoly
As kids, my brother offered to play me Monopoly for real money. At the end of the game, he said, we’ll just divide all the sums by 100. 500 monopoly = 5 bucks. I agreed on the condition that either of us could “fold” at any time. I figured this was my edge and would minimize the luck factor. Plus, he’s a chaser in poker, so he would probably chase here, too.
First game I feel I’m in bad shape and I quit. We count up, and I’m down like 80 bucks! Holy sht!! Much more than I figured. I got pissed, thinking he’d set me up! Next game, I took over $300 off him in a very short span, he quit and we never played again. That was too much money for us and I felt a little bad for him. As a gambling game, a decent Monopoly player should make much more than a Statego expert. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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#14
05-20-2005, 02:13 PM
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Re: Much more skill in stratego than monopoly
LOL, monopoloy would definitely be a better gambling game than stratego. But I think the skills of monopoly -- and there are some -- are so simple compared to the importance of getting property that Stratego easily is the more skillful game. In monopoly, you basically just buy up every property you can early because there are no big expenses to bankrupt you. Then you slap up houses/hotels as fast as you can if you are lucky enough to get monopolies. The RRs are good, too if you get 3 or all 4. We modified monopoly to have some different chance and CC cards and a third property in the Boardwalk/Park Place monopoly (Steel Pier) instead of luxury tax. Our version also included "gang war" in which if you landed on a property owned by another player but you also owned one of the deeds in that monopoly, you could declare a gang war and roll the dice with the higher roll taking the other player's deed. This eliminated standoffs when playing head up.
Another game I used to think had a fair bit of skill when I was a kid but now realize has very little (after playiing it with my kids) was Masterpiece. I'm sure of this because my 10 year old kicked my butt.
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#15
05-20-2005, 05:50 PM
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Re: Much more skill in stratego than monopoly
Couldn't agree more. Stratego has very little to do with luck. Monopoly uses dice - nuff said.
BTW - I will kick your ass in Stratego pal. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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#19
05-20-2005, 09:00 PM
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Re: Much more skill in stratego than monopoly
Stratego is a f'ing great game. It's like chess, but you get to blow shhhhit up. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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#20
05-21-2005, 11:45 PM
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Re: Much more skill in stratego than monopoly
Chess is a game of skill. When I was a kid, there was this dude named Fisher. He pretty much beat everyone.
Yahtzee, on the other hand, is heavily luck dependent. You have to roll dice randomly and have them come up in certain ways. Winning is just a matter of good dice rolls. EDIT: Also... the sky is blue. Stuff falls down. Things get old and die.
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