Two Hands: Call the All-In? Push?

[TruFloridaGator]

Tru, neither hand is automatic..I think either way on both are acceptable, however overtime the A6s push is +ev, so why not just stay with it.

[curtains]

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Or you can steal 1.5 BB 50+% of the time, and get to a very healthy stack that way.

I think A6s is way too good to fold here. Anyone want to crunch some numbers? You can't get into the money without a few steals or a double-up. This, especially when you're going to be down to 3x BB after the blinds hit in the next 4 hands, is an excellent spot to get your chips in.

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eh whatever. You can play as you wish.

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I would definitely push with the A6s and I don't think its close.

[lastchance]

I want to know, because if folding A6s here is bad, then my L4 and L5 game sucks. I'm probably a losing player.

LC pushes 22+, A2+, K8+, QJ, plus suited hands?

[Nick B.]

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Tru, neither hand is automatic..I think either way on both are acceptable, however overtime the A6s push is +ev, so why not just stay with it.

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If I thought it was +ev I would push it.

[DasLeben]

I call the 1st if UTG has been loose. If he's been playing tight, I muck.

I push #2 without a second thought, but some people have been saying that it's not correct. I don't have eastbay's program on this computer, so would someone run the hand through there? Either way, I'd put up good money that it's +EV (and not even close for that matter).

[curtains]

I ran it putting the 2 bigger stacks on tis range range: 44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+

And I put the shorter stacks on the following range:

22+,A2s+,A3o+,KTs+,KJo+,QJs


Using these parameters it's +.4% EV (Which in my opinion is an unforgivable amount to give up on the bubble with high blinds). Of course you can say my calling ranges are too tight, or that eastbay's program is somehow flawed here, but I just don't believe it. I can see no serious argument for folding a hand that is +chip EV, and also seemingly +EV against all but the loosest opponents and with over 1/3rd of your stack likely going to the blinds in a few hands.

[Myst]

Something is wrong here... If Gigabet is willing to push 1445 chips when the blinds are 100/200 with Queen 8 suited in the $100k game, and people here are advocating a fold with Ace 6 offsuit with the blinds at 150/300 in the $10 game, then 2+2 has gone insane.

[TruFloridaGator]

ugh, what are the numbers? I haven't run them..

[Newt_Buggs]

hand 2 is an easy, +EV push

hand 1 is tricky but I'm probably folding for the above reasons. However, I might call if I know that UTG is a very solid player (unlikely at an $11) because his pushing range will be so wide

[curtains]

I just posted some numbers above.