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05-06-2005, 04:56 PM
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Re: At what point (HU) do you quit playing flops and focus on AI only?
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Also take a look at poincaraux's An opponent-centric solution to the heads-up jam or fold problem. The Shadow (who doesn't know the answer but figures that it's something like once the blinds get big enough or you think the villian is a better post-flop player than you) [/ QUOTE ] If I get some free time this weekend, I'm going take a couple of obvious next steps with this. The most obvious one: do a weighted average over all possible opponent hands and see if jam-or-fold on the button is profitable or not vs. various opponent strategies. There are some obvious steps after that as well. We'll see if they work out [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. 
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05-06-2005, 03:43 PM
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Re: At what point (HU) do you quit playing flops and focus on AI only?
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some interesting stuff here. [/ QUOTE ] People love to link to this, but I'm not sure why since no one ever actually completed the experiment and posted any results. Of course this could mean that someone did do it and the results were too good to share ... hmm.
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05-06-2005, 03:52 PM
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Re: At what point (HU) do you quit playing flops and focus on AI only?
it was never completed but i think some of the theories buried in there are worth something. The idea dali thought it could be a better strat for him (him being much better player than I) makes me give it some weight as a reasonable option. Irie also hypothesizes that his push everything results will be higher than his normal play results. I know eastbay used to talk about the percentages but I couldnt find any of those posts quickly and don't want to misquote him.
Personally I feel like pushing a lot when the blinds are 200/400 is a decent option as there are very few instances where this is not 10% of either my or my opponents stacks and if you raise 3bb and he pushes laying it down doesn't really add up.
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05-06-2005, 11:01 PM
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Re: At what point (HU) do you quit playing flops and focus on AI only?
Take a look at the threads in sections 2.10 (Heads Up) and 4.2 (Hand Rankings) of my Favorite Threads list, especially the Sklansky-Karlson hand ranking threads. The percentages of top hands with which to push or call vary with the stack to big blind ratio.
The Shadow
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05-06-2005, 03:45 PM
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Re: At what point (HU) do you quit playing flops and focus on AI only?
If X > 10% of min or my opponents stack, its always, always, always AI or fold. I use the Eastbay formula, and I have to tell you, it works really well.
If its less, then it becomes opponent and hand dependent. I don't think you could construct a simple rule. Will your opponent let you see flops in unraised pots? Is your opponent very good at HU aggressive play? Can you get him to fold easily on the flop or turn with any two? Is your starting hand one that could be a useful trapping hand against a reliably aggressive opponent? Is your hand a monster, and your opponent a bit over aggressive, such that a limp/reraise might work? What range of hands will your opponent call with preflop, against what kind of raise? All are considerations, there are probably many more...
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#7
05-06-2005, 03:56 PM
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Re: At what point (HU) do you quit playing flops and focus on AI only?
HU at the end of a tournament with high blinds, there are two strategies to follow:
(1) Fold a lot. (2) Anything else. The first strategy will get you killed, and with the second you will win in close proportion to your percentage of chips. This is basically straight from TPFAP.
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05-06-2005, 04:33 PM
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Re: At what point (HU) do you quit playing flops and focus on AI only?
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SNG. You've gotten to heads-up against an opponent. The blinds just went up to X. At X, do you never call PF, do you only go AI or fold? What is X? Can there always be some play? Are there some hands you might just call with or just min-raise with? Does your opponent matter? [/ QUOTE ] I've read a couple (possibly contradictory?) things. Not sure if any of this is right, and I'm certainly not an SNG pro, so read this as a skeptic and rip it up as you see fit. If this is worthless crap, please say so and why. The first thing I've heard is that you should become more agressive as the difference between the two chipstacks grows, and more passive as they move closer to equal. The other thing I've heard is that the best player in the world can only expect to win about 55% of the time starting with equal stacks against a monkey who pushes every hand.
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#10
05-06-2005, 05:08 PM
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Re: At what point (HU) do you quit playing flops and focus on AI only?
Usually in the $215's, it is HU around the 6th level. I push every hand I play.
Jcardshark
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