You might not like this preflop...what about postflop?

[hobbsmann]

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Why do you raise preflop?

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Because I like our hand. Because we will get called by worse hands. Because it probably doesn't matter either way and since raising is fun, raise.
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He didn't say anything except that its a typical party table. You don't think that raising a9s utg at a typical party table is correct, do you?

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I do, although at a typical 2/4 table limping might be superior.

[jason_t]

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I raise preflop.

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This is not right in the Party 2/4 games. However limping is okay on most tables.

PREFLOP: A9s is a borderline hand UTG, but I believe there are many party tables where limping here is profitable

FLOP: Youre getting 9-1 to call, I would estimate that you have 5 pure outs, which means you have the odds to call, but becuz there is a chance you may have the best hand here, raising is the best option. The BB could easily have AQ,AJ,AT and making a bad continuation bet. Plus if the BB has QQ,JJ,TT you may induce him to make a bad fold later on in the hand.

TURN: Given how you played the flop, and the fact that you only have one opponent standing between you and this pot, you must bet this turn. Checking and taking a free card with your made hand is not an option in this decent sized pot. Plus there is still a chance the BB will fold a hand that has you beat like QQ,JJ,TT. But he cant make this bad fold if you dont bet.

I think you played this hand excellently postflop and that is much more important than whether your A9s preflop call is right or not.

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FLOP: Youre getting 9-1 to call, I would estimate that you have 5 pure outs,

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Don't forget about the backdoor flush. I'd add another 1.5 to those outs.

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FLOP: Youre getting 9-1 to call, I would estimate that you have 5 pure outs,

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Don't forget about the backdoor flush. I'd add another 1.5 to those outs.

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This is how I calculate my pure outs in this situation. The hero has 5 outs to two pair/trips but I only assign that draw as 4 pure outs since the hero is not drawing to the nuts so he can still be drawing dead sometimes to a set or he can make his hand on the turn but still get rivered. I give the backdoor flush 1 pure out(I know small stakes gives this draw 1.5 pure outs, but I see it as 1 pure out which I dont think is much of a difference. So 4 pure outs + 1 pure out = 5 pure outs. So I already took into account the backdoor flush draw.

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FLOP: Youre getting 9-1 to call, I would estimate that you have 5 pure outs,

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Don't forget about the backdoor flush. I'd add another 1.5 to those outs.

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This is how I calculate my pure outs in this situation. The hero has 5 outs to two pair/trips but I only assign that draw as 4 pure outs since the hero is not drawing to the nuts so he can still be drawing dead sometimes to a set or he can make his hand on the turn but still get rivered. I give the backdoor flush 1 pure out(I know small stakes gives this draw 1.5 pure outs, but I see it as 1 pure out which I dont think is much of a difference. So 4 pure outs + 1 pure out = 5 pure outs. So I already took into account the backdoor flush draw.

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I understand your reasoning and I wouldn't give this any more than an additional 1.5 outs than you did, anyway. Regardless, we'd play it the same way.

[jskills]

Well played on every street.

If he calls the turn, you're checking behind on the river of course ...

A villain was 36/7/1.8 folding TPTK after a single flop raise? Yeah right.

[imported_smoove]

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A villain was 36/7/1.8 folding TPTK after a single flop raise? Yeah right.

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I suspect he might have said that in an attempt to trick me into exclaiming, "WHAT??? You folded TPTK on the flop?? To one bet?? I had ___!"

I wouldn't limp A9s UTG, but I'm too tight as it is [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I like the flop raise, turn raise also

check behind on the river if he calls you