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Old 04-29-2005, 12:07 AM
Maulik Maulik is offline
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Default Re: What to do during a downswing

The beauty of working for yourself is having the abilty to take time off like degen said. Just relax, go to the bars, go for a run, get off your arse.
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Old 04-29-2005, 12:36 AM
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Move up in levels.






Just kidding.
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Old 04-29-2005, 12:51 AM
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Well, after killing the game for about 500 games I hit a pretty significant downswing. I am down 25 buyins in the $215's in the last 150 dames or so. I feel as if I have been playing well but I always seem to lose coin flips and I seem to ALWAYS lose to 3 outers. So far today, out of about 35 games, I have had 1 first. That is HORRIBLE. I guess I am wondering if this is a "normal" downswing. At what point do you move down or leave sngs all together? I still have about 100 buyins or so sitting in neteller, so I am not really in the need of money. I have considered changing my name as some people are now calling me with absolute trash, which happens to be better than the trash I push with. Any responses would be greatly appreciated.

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Wellcome to the $215s. The reality is that 25 buy-ins is not "significant" at that level. It sucks, but it happens pretty frequently. You have to play thousands of these suckers before you start to have a grasp of your true ROI. I've had a 20% ROI over 500, and lost money over 500 - there's a lot of variance even within that # of SNGs.

There's a reason people buy treasuries instead of investing in the stock market, and there's a reason people who can beat the $215s play lower (even though they could make more per SNG at the $215s). The swings involved can be highly life -EV, all things considered. A high risk tolerance (or maybe it's more of an "affection for risk") goes a long way towards determining whether the $215s are a good place to be in the long run. That and an always healthy bankroll (I'd say at least 100 buy-ins if poker is your only source of income).
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Old 04-29-2005, 08:31 AM
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well mr card shark, i think i mentioned this happening over yer next set [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] dont get discouraged. that 700 streak someone spoke of? yea, it actually kept going. it was 700 breaking even in the 55s, then 400 breaking even in the 109s. in the 215s, ive played around 500 this month having a -.23% roi. yea, super solid. this is by far my worst month of poker. ever. just nothing seems to win for me. however, jsut stick with it, eventually, you can outrun the suckouts. (so they say..)

i duno about breaks, people have always told me to take a break when im running bad, and apparently it is supposed to help, but i suppose that im a degenerate and feel a need to play 10409135080385 sngs a day. i duno, if u ever feel crappy about a run, remember, wwrd. and the answer is hit a wall and curse a lot. that is +ev. holla
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Old 04-29-2005, 10:26 AM
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i duno, if u ever feel crappy about a run, remember, wwrd. and the answer is hit a wall and curse a lot

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Last night after my bubble A10 allin got called, dominated, and knocked out in fourth by A4 for about the 15th bad beat of the night, I asked myself WWRD? Apparently I didn't do it right becaues all I got was dogs barking, a newly awake/puzzled/angry wife, and a day at work where it hurts to type (-EV for software developer). I want a refund.
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Old 04-29-2005, 11:13 AM
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Default Re: What to do during a downswing

-25 over 150 hahaha. try -25 in a row.
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Old 04-29-2005, 11:44 AM
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-25 over 150 hahaha. try -25 in a row.

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whew, I had a feeling not to back you [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] j/k dude
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Old 04-29-2005, 11:55 AM
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still waiting for 100x100 [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:49 PM
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i duno, if u ever feel crappy about a run, remember, wwrd. and the answer is hit a wall and curse a lot

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Last night after my bubble A10 allin got called, dominated, and knocked out in fourth by A4 for about the 15th bad beat of the night, I asked myself WWRD? Apparently I didn't do it right becaues all I got was dogs barking, a newly awake/puzzled/angry wife, and a day at work where it hurts to type (-EV for software developer). I want a refund.

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Did you scream HOLLA! like a little girl? If not, that's where you went wrong.
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Old 04-29-2005, 11:28 AM
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if u ever feel crappy about a run, remember, wwrd.

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