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Old 11-28-2005, 07:55 PM
TripleH68 TripleH68 is offline
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Default Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats inside

You may be folding too much out of the blinds.
Plus it does not appear that you check-raise very often.

This may make you pretty easy to read?
Tough to tell just from stats though.

Welcome to the boards. And don't quit.
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Old 11-28-2005, 08:46 PM
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My first attempt at posting hands here so bear with me.

Hand 1

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Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

River: (6.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 6.25 BB

I'm sure this is a very simple hand for most of you, but I'm sure this is where I need to improve. How far do you guys push this hand?

Hand 2

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, Button calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.

River: (4.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 4.50 BB

Same sort of deal, I had a great draw for the entire way. Is there a place to bet anywhere?

Hand 3

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Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, Hero folds, MP2 calls.

Ideas?
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Old 11-28-2005, 08:58 PM
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hand 1 good

hand 2 - risky semi bluff against 4 players left to act but +ev i think since you have 2 overs also.
turn and river are fine

hand 3 - well played.
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Old 11-28-2005, 08:59 PM
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hand 2- you can also try for a check raise to either build the pot or win the pot with a turn bet depending on who bet the flop.
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Old 11-30-2005, 11:35 AM
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hand 1:
flop raise was nice put - gave you a free showdown. HU I would bet the turn after I was checked to. Maybye even here. Not too sure, though.

hand 2:
youre lucky to be in with a passive bunch here. The Flop-bet is good in my book (guess you cant count on a checkraise here, with these opponents). And further - you cant push these guys out, so I think checking is fine when you don't hit. Please tell me, someone had at least had a T...

hand 3:
only way to do it !. By the (any) book. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:15 PM
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Hand 1, I bet the Flop.

Hand 2, I play it the same way.

Hand 3, not sure I raise Q10s pre-flop but would definitely raise the Flop bet regardless.

Might have been tempted to check behind after the scary 9 hit on the Turn, but I probably end up doing the same as you did. At least you weren't a complete Donkey calling a double checkraise and praying for a Jack to hit (with at least one if not 2 in your opponents' hands).
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Old 11-28-2005, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats inside

you should be checkraising far more often than 98 times out of 34,000
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Old 11-28-2005, 09:37 PM
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Default Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats inside

I don't know of anybody that can beat the game if they only win 51.47% of showdowns. Everything else looks fine to me
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Old 11-28-2005, 09:55 PM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Default Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats inside

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I don't know of anybody that can beat the game if they only win 51.47% of showdowns. Everything else looks fine to me

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What are you talking about? That's a pretty standard W$SD for winning players. You should shoot for between 50-57%. If you're much higher than 57 it actually means that you are folding way too much and getting pushed around.
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:24 PM
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Default Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats inside

Do me one favor go back and separate a block of 5k hands where you won less than 53% of your showdowns and still was beating the the game, then we will talk more.
Op is beating the game when he wins 56% of showdowns but is loosing at 51%. My stats says that 53% breakeven 55% I'm a 2bb/100 hands. Granted I may have leaks elsewhere.
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