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And if I'm wrong, please correct me. What is our edge against 4 limpers? [/ QUOTE ] 25.5% equity against four players playing 88-66,ATs-A4s,KJs-K8s,Q9s+,J9s+,T9s,AJo-A9o,KTo+,QTo+,JTo Thats 20% minus AA-99, AKs-AJs, AKo-AQo. They are probably looser then that but it doesnt affect the equity to any bigger extent. Still thats a decent edge. And even so postflop we will know where we are standing so we will always get the most of it. Against the normal 1/2 players i say its an easy raise. |
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OOP reduces edge..
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True, but something says me these guys arent the hottest tags on the planet so we are probably going to get paid when we hit and maybe get a free card when we miss.
And nevertheless its still a decent edge. |
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I agree -- I'd bet the flop, then if CO raises and button reraises, you can drop the hand. [/ QUOTE ] I am not able to fold top pair good kicker on a two-flush flop when it's two back to me. I don't know if this is a leak. I don't think it is. Consider the CO will raise with any ace and often with other pairs, and the button will 3-bet a lot of aces and many flush draws, as well as stuff that owns you like two pair and sets. I am in total agreement about betting this flop, though. B/c there wasn't a PFR you can't be sure anyone will bet in the first place. I donk this turn unless it's capped on the flop, that was if it's two back to me on the turn I can safely fold. |
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Men i call preflop as it is impossible for me to eliminate people by raising and then i prefer just call you make costly weak draws to remain in the hand and make Ax that are almost dead stay in the hand..thats all least what i think...
What i cant understand very well is something everybody seems to be clear: beting the flop with so many people in the hand Is it only to gain information?? |
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<font color="red">Men i call preflop as it is impossible for me to eliminate people by raising</font> and then i prefer just call you make costly weak draws to remain in the hand and make Ax that are almost dead stay in the hand..thats all least what i think... What i cant understand very well is something everybody seems to be clear: <font color="blue">beting the flop with so many people in the hand Is it only to gain information??</font> [/ QUOTE ] <font color="red">That's not why we usually raise pf in loose games. We do it for value. Everytime you get called by weak hands, you make money.</font> <font color="blue">No, you bet the flop because you are VERY likely to have the best hand and VERY likely to get called by a worse hand. You are out of position, so you should tend to bet so that you don't give out a free card.</font> |
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