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Old 10-29-2005, 08:53 AM
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no they want a buck every time...they expect top make $50+ an hour. That unreasonable for a job that a monkey can do.
They don't even shuffle any more. I suggest tipping $.50 every other hand..,if you don't like it get another job!

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Cough up a buck you cheap bastard.

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He is tipping what he believes is a fair amount for this occupation. It doesn't make him a "cheap bastard". Why do people confuse tipping .50/hand with being cheap?
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Old 10-29-2005, 09:00 AM
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As a former waiter, all I have to say is that all of the jobs which are tipped customarily are very different from the ones you have worked. No, a monkey could not deal. As a matter of fact, it is more likely that a monkey could sit in your cubicle, wear your two dollar shirt and cornstarch blue tie each day, and do your job.

If all of us "monkeys" left our jobs... you would complain like crazy about that. You know the custom is to tip, and yet you justify your cheapness in ways that are amazing to me.

Before you say that tipping is stupid, useless, or unnecessary, please, pleeease go get a job as a dealer, or a waiter.

Oh yeah, and as far as waiting tables goes, for every table, I pay a percentage to bartenders, hosts, and busboys. So when you dont tip, you actually cost me money.

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Hmmm, where do you come up with this stuff? I never said I didn't tip, or called anyone a monkey. I tip $25 at the end of each dealer's down, if that makes me cheap, well, sorry.

Never worked in a cubicle, or had to wear any suit whether cheap or not.

Also, I take care of the waiters, too.

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You don't have to justify yourself to him by quoting your tip amounts.

behemoth, dealers should make no more than $35k/year, which means they should make about $8 per down in tips. When they get a 50 cent tip, they shouldn't look at you like you're trash. They should accept the donation gracefully and get the [censored] back to work. If they got 50 cents every hand, they'd make that $35k/year.
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Old 10-29-2005, 10:28 AM
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Lol, I know this guy. What's he put in, 100 hour weeks?

Jeff
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Old 10-29-2005, 10:32 AM
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behemoth, dealers should make no more than $35k/year, which means they should make about $8 per down in tips. When they get a 50 cent tip, they shouldn't look at you like you're trash. They should accept the donation gracefully and get the [censored] back to work. If they got 50 cents every hand, they'd make that $35k/year.

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Why? Who designated you the salary captain? I tip $1 for any decent pot, two one in awhile. But I was in a 40-80 game where a maniac up $10,000 was tipping dealers 30 and 40 a pot. And I was happy for them (the good ones) because my attitude is this...if they don't hurt my action, I'm surely not going to hurt theirs.

Jeff
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Old 10-29-2005, 01:20 PM
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no they want a buck every time...they expect top make $50+ an hour. That unreasonable for a job that a monkey can do.
They don't even shuffle any more. I suggest tipping $.50 every other hand..,if you don't like it get another job!

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Cough up a buck you cheap bastard.

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He is tipping what he believes is a fair amount for this occupation. It doesn't make him a "cheap bastard". Why do people confuse tipping .50/hand with being cheap?

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Because it is cheap. That's fine if you want to tip that much. I'm going to tip more and i'm not going to say anything to you for being cheap. Just know that you are in fact cheap.
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Old 10-29-2005, 01:22 PM
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Recently a guy in our room who is a total and absolute stiff(I mean 100% stiff) was in a $20-40 Omaha/8 or better game when I was dealing. On the river he turns over his hand and says something like "I got the same straight. Chop it up". But I notice he is thinking they both have the same low straight, when he doesnt notice he also has a higher straight for all of the high end of the pot.

I had an easy shot at "getting even with him as nobody at the table was paying attn. However, keeping with the integrity of the game, I forced myself to give him 3/4's of the pot, not 1/2. AS MUCH AS IT HURT TO DO SO!!

I still got the big airball from him. And boy did I want to say something.

Thats alright tho. If I am in his game, I just toke off whatever chips he put into any pot I am involved with him and win.

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It's easy to see why Randy always says you are one of the best dealers he knows.
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Old 10-29-2005, 02:26 PM
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behemoth, dealers should make no more than $35k/year, which means they should make about $8 per down in tips. When they get a 50 cent tip, they shouldn't look at you like you're trash. They should accept the donation gracefully and get the [censored] back to work. If they got 50 cents every hand, they'd make that $35k/year.

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Why? Who designated you the salary captain? I tip $1 for any decent pot, two one in awhile. But I was in a 40-80 game where a maniac up $10,000 was tipping dealers 30 and 40 a pot. And I was happy for them (the good ones) because my attitude is this...if they don't hurt my action, I'm surely not going to hurt theirs.

Jeff

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Do I really need to explicitly state in every post that I am stating my opinion?

Obviously, others are going to feel differently.
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Old 10-29-2005, 02:33 PM
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no they want a buck every time...they expect top make $50+ an hour. That unreasonable for a job that a monkey can do.
They don't even shuffle any more. I suggest tipping $.50 every other hand..,if you don't like it get another job!

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Cough up a buck you cheap bastard.

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He is tipping what he believes is a fair amount for this occupation. It doesn't make him a "cheap bastard". Why do people confuse tipping .50/hand with being cheap?

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Because it is cheap. That's fine if you want to tip that much. I'm going to tip more and i'm not going to say anything to you for being cheap. Just know that you are in fact cheap.

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Basically, your definition of cheap is -- "a person who tips less than what I believe is fair" -- which is flawed.

I believe that a dealer deserves to make $x/yr. Therefore, I tip in a manner such that if I were to take up every seat at the table, every day of the year, the dealer would make that $x. There is nothing "cheap" about coming to a determination of how much someone deserves to earn and basing your tips on that.

Being cheap is believing that someone deserves a certain amount, but leaving less because you want to keep that money for yourself.

In other words:

Person A -- Believes a $100 tip is appropriate, but leaves $50. Cheap.

Person B -- Believes a $10 tip is appropriate, and leaves $10. Not cheap.
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Old 10-29-2005, 02:36 PM
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Just know that you are in fact cheap.

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Heh, I missed this part the first time around. I don't know what I'm supposed to do with this. Abandon my own assessment of what is a fair tip and give more because I'm cheap, I guess.
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Old 10-29-2005, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: From a dealer: VERY LONG

I dont go to casinos at all anymore because of online poker, but when I used to go, I used to ask the dealer how much I should tip. No one ever told me anything.

Also when I would win a pot of like 40 bucks at 3/6 high low, I would tip about 5 bucks out of it. I would rarely tip on small pots, maybe if it was past 20 I would tip 1 or 2 bucks.

Thats just how I would tip, but then again I am still new when it comes to playing at casinos. I also dont know if thats too much or to little, the dealers never answered when I asked how much I should tip.
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