Party VIP offers - November

[aslowjoe]

I got my phone call tonight. Basically it amounts to 3.5 cents a hand. He said $350 for 10,000 raked hands but said they will double it if I hit 20,000 and pay 1/2 if I hit 5,000. So I asked if it was pro rated over all hands and he said yes. I play exclusively 5/10. He also added that you will be able to cash points in for $.

[Newt_Buggs]

I got offered $100 for every 70 $215s.

[Catt]

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Thought I'd share.

I haven't played Party since the last reload in early September. In October I got a pop-up offering $160 for 1960 points. Playing at my current limit of $10/$20 6-max, it's actually not a terrible offer and equates to about 13.67% RB; I haven't played for it yet.

On Monday evening I sent an email to VIP stating that I'd heard Party was offering incentives for high-volume players to come back and play at Party. I described my Ocotber offer and explained that (1) it would be attractive as a Gold and possibly a Silver VIP member (I am a lowly Blue since I never play at Party); but (2) more important to me was a consistent "on all the time" incentive that scales to the number of hands / limits I play during the month.

I got a formulaic email offering details on the generic VIP club with a closing that someone would contact me shortly.

I received a call earlier today with an offer of $300 for 9,000 raked hands (not points). The offer itself was uniteresting as it is effectively 6.2% RB. I explained that I might play the October bonus just to see what the games on Party are like, but that the current offer for November wasn't interesting. I emphasized that I would be more interested in a longer-term offer that I could count on every month. The representative (British, articulate, informed) stated that she didn't set bonus levels / incentives, and further indicated that they are experimenting a bit with VIP rewards. She continued that some months it might be cash for points / cash for raked hands, some months it might be freerolls available only to the VIP club members, some months it might be a chance to play in land-based events, etc. She also indicated that the bonus offers would almost certainly improve with more play, but that since the program was so new she didn't feel comfortable promising anything. I reiterated that consistent, scaling rewards month in and out was of interest to me personally, and indicated that I tracked my play pretty closely as many high-volume players do; I explained that I figured I contributed approximately $0.40 per hand in rake, and $300 for 9000 raked hands just wasn't an incentive. When asked if I was rejecting the November offer I said that it would not encourage me to play 9000 raked hands at Party in Nov, so basically yes. I stated that I assumed the bonus offers were based on revenue generated for Party (hands, limits, etc.) and she confirmed. I encouraged her to check with those that determined the bonus offers (since she said she did not) to see if there was something more interesting available, and she asked permission to go back to her manager and call me back at some point if there was something more available. I said of course. We'll see. I think I'll clear the October pop-up offer over the next few days in the meantime.

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Haven't heard back from Party, though I am frequently away from the landline # that is attached to my Party account.

Nonetheless, my offer seems to have gotten better. I checked my account to verify that the bonus for the pop-up points-for-cash promotion was credited to my account -- it was. And a second bonus was there, too. $100, and labeled as "Bonus - after offer rejected" -- no clearing requirements listed in my bonus account page, and no message from Party about the bonus. So I went from $300 for 9,000 raked hands to $100 for 0 raked hands. I'm pleased, but confused about what sort of behavior this is supposed to promote. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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I got a call this evening with a revised offer for November. The gentleman was articulate and informed. He confirmed that I had rejected the initial offer and then laid out the revised offer: $800 for 18,000 raked hands (instead of $300 for 9,000 raked hands); he also confirmed that they had already deposited an additional "no strings" $100 as a show of good faith. I thanked him, explained I thought this was more interesting as an initial expectation while the program got off the ground. He conifrmed that offers are likely to improve with continued play. I accepted the offer.

I figured that (1) though the offer isn't great compared to competing rooms, it isn't too shabby; (2) by playing these hands I'll move from a Blue to a Silver VIP member; (3) if, as I hope, future VIP offers rely on points rather than raked hands, being a Silver would make a similar offer fairly competitive; and (4) depending on what happens with the points system, the points may actually have some value that I don't perceive today (since I never really play freerolls).

I'm impressed that Party is actually taking steps to create what could be a decent player rewards system, and they seem to be trying fairly hard at it (this is a pretty labor intensive process, it seems). They can of course still screw it up completely, but so far they seem to be trying and taking cautious but worthwhile steps.

[Guy McSucker]

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if, as I hope, future VIP offers rely on points rather than raked hands, being a Silver would make a similar offer fairly competitive


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Don't you think they'll just ask for 50% more points for the same cash return when you're Silver?

Guy.

[spydog]

I finally got my call. I emailed 4 times and finally withdrew all my money from Party Poker and then they called.

My offer is $600 for 17000 raked hands. In October I played the following (all 6-max):

3/6 - 15k hands (approx)
5/10 - 9k hands (approx)
10/20 - 2k hands (approx)
Other: Played about 70 $11/22 SNGs and a few low $ MTTs.

I hadn't played Party for about 9 months before my October play.

The lady I talked to said that future offers would happen via email or a pop-up, usually in the first week of the month. She said they were very busy and had been flooded with emails. She also said that next month's offer would likely be better if I exceeded my target. My November offer is pro-rated, so if I go over or under they will adjust my bonus. I must, however, play a minimum of 4000 raked hands.

Overall, I'm fairly neutral about this offer. It's certainly better than nothing and it sounds like they are geniunely (believe it or not) concerned about high-volume players. She says they realize that they will lose players if they don't stay competitive.

She also said that Party Points will eventually count towards land-based events and that they were working on a whole bunch of stuff. It sounds promising but I'm not holding my breath.

[Catt]

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if, as I hope, future VIP offers rely on points rather than raked hands, being a Silver would make a similar offer fairly competitive


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Don't you think they'll just ask for 50% more points for the same cash return when you're Silver?

Guy.

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I hope not. That would materially weaken the concept of a tiered VIP club (unless there is a corresponding points-for-cash deal that could make up the shortfall).

But since this is Party we are discussing, I certainly don't rule anything out.

[Yako]

Heh, just got my November offer... I'm a 2/4 player by the way... 250$ for 12.5k raked hands. Is it just me or is that totally horrible? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] 2 cents per raked hand is roughly 1 cent per hand at 2/4. :/

[WalkAmongUs]

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Heh, just got my November offer... I'm a 2/4 player by the way... 250$ for 12.5k raked hands. Is it just me or is that totally horrible? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] 2 cents per raked hand is roughly 1 cent per hand at 2/4. :/

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I wouldn't complain. I got $150 for 10k raked hands. I'm a 2/4 player as well.

[Yako]

Seems like maybe we should move up limits Walk! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[kagame]

this is such garbage, everyone should just stop playing there for a month and see how they like it