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#141
10-27-2005, 07:56 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] This is why I will rake $10 for each pot you win. Its not good for me but the casino loves it. If you dont like it, go to another casino. [/ QUOTE ] So let me get this straight: 1) you feel screwed because you don't make enough money. 2) the players give a substantial amount of money in the form of rake to the casino. 3) The casino, in turn, keeps most of the money as profit and pays what you consider to be a "relatively" small amount -- effectively being the ones who screw you. So, you decide to give the entity that screws you (i.e., the casino) more money, and take that money from the person who provides the casino with it's income (i.e., the player)? That's got to be up there on the nastiness scale. And you complain that some of the players are mean? Well, whatever helps you sleep well at night... [/ QUOTE ] I do lose a little sleep over it. I sleep 12 hours a day and if I didnt double rake the stiffs, I would sleep 14 hours. [/ QUOTE ] Can't wait for you to double rake a member of the Gambling Commision one night and lose your job AND get the casino fined for your despicable behaviour. Your job is about SERVICE. If you get treated badly or stiffed out of the tip, you let it roll of your back and/or report it to the management. THIS IS YOUR JOB DESCRIPTION. 
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#143
10-27-2005, 11:25 PM
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[ QUOTE ] I am being tipped for doing a good job. If I do good job I sould be tipped. [/ QUOTE ] ok, fair enough. I do tip for good service. If you were my dealer, and didn't [censored] anything up, I'd tip you. [ QUOTE ] I make mim wage and rely on tips to live. [/ QUOTE ] OK, first you say that dealers should be tipped for good service, I, and probably 99% of 2+2ers agree with that. But, no one likes a whiny ass dealer/waiter/cab driver etc, who bitches about how little their paid and how much they need tips. YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO TIPS. Tips are given at the DISCRESION of the customer, if they are happy with their service. Once again, TIPS ARE NOT AN ENTITLEMENT. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree with this. Minimum wage was $5.15 when I was in school. When I worked as a waiter, I only made $2/hour. So how did they justify paying less than minimum wage? Because the restaurant(and the government) recognizes that tips are EXPECTED. If you don't have money to tip, then you don't have money to use that service whether it be cards, food, or whatever else. Unless your dealer/waiter is outright rude, he deserves to be tipped. Just my two cents.
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#144
10-27-2005, 11:36 PM
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[ QUOTE ] I am being tipped for doing a good job. If I do good job I sould be tipped. [/ QUOTE ] Tipping is one of the worst scams in modern history. If you do not make enough on your job, get an education and get a higher paid job or learn to live with low income. I hope Penn & Teller bring this up sometime, coz it is bulls*t! [/ QUOTE ] Couldn't disagree more. A restaurant could charage $10 for a meal and no tips or they could charge $8 for a meal and request that you tip based upon service. Which method do you think will make the waiters work harder and therefore give you a better dining experience?
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#145
10-27-2005, 11:37 PM
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no they want a buck every time...they expect top make $50+ an hour. That unreasonable for a job that a monkey can do. They don't even shuffle any more. I suggest tipping $.50 every other hand..,if you don't like it get another job! [/ QUOTE ] I have no clue what dealers make, but I agree that it shouldn't be much more than $15/hour. Just doesn't seem to be worth much more. Again...just my two cents.
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#146
10-27-2005, 11:46 PM
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Mr. Pink in Reservoir Dogs had a very good speech about tipping. do you tip fast food workers? do you tip your doctor when going for a check up? why not? but society says, "tip them, but don't tip them" it shouldn't matter if a pot is 100 or 1000, why would a dealer expect that much more? it's the player's money. imagine a cashier who sold a winning lottery ticket and demanded a cut. greed... there are so many sides to this argument.. basically, with me what it boils down to is: if a dealer is fast and does the job well, and the pot is worthwhile, i will throw him a buck or .50 when playing 3/6. if the dealer does a bad job or takes a longer time dealing hands, then he is not rewarded. tips are not required, they are optional. just like others have said, if the dealers complain about not making enough money, they can get another job. [/ QUOTE ] Mr.Pink(and you) was missing the point. Certain jobs pay less and offer cheaper services to the customer because they know that society says to tip them. You can disagree with that if you want(personally, I think its great becasue it ensures better service), but if you don't tip then you're really underpaying for the product because with no tips they would raise their prices and pay the workers more base pay.
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#147
10-27-2005, 11:55 PM
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[ QUOTE ] So, you decide to give the entity that screws you (i.e., the casino) more money, and take that money from the person who provides the casino with it's income (i.e., the player)? That's got to be up there on the nastiness scale. [/ QUOTE ] And possibly the stupidity scale, too. The decision is to give the casino money from the people that provide the tips. Yes, overraking that one pot screws the person that did not tip, but once that money is off the table it's off, and not any of the other players can win it and return it as a tip, either. <font color="white">Why am I even posting to a tipping thread? Tipping threads suck.</font> [/ QUOTE ] lol...very good posting.
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#148
10-28-2005, 02:28 AM
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i don't tip period. i don't tip waiters, valet, dealers, or anybody...those dollars really add up. [/ QUOTE ] mr. pink
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#149
10-28-2005, 03:36 AM
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Can't wait for you to double rake a member of the Gambling Commision one night [/ QUOTE ] Dominic, you need to learn the rules of the NGC before posting this stuff, lol. Gaming commission is not allowed to play ANY GAME in a casino in the state of Nevada
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#150
10-28-2005, 12:52 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Mr. Pink in Reservoir Dogs had a very good speech about tipping. do you tip fast food workers? do you tip your doctor when going for a check up? why not? but society says, "tip them, but don't tip them" it shouldn't matter if a pot is 100 or 1000, why would a dealer expect that much more? it's the player's money. imagine a cashier who sold a winning lottery ticket and demanded a cut. greed... there are so many sides to this argument.. basically, with me what it boils down to is: if a dealer is fast and does the job well, and the pot is worthwhile, i will throw him a buck or .50 when playing 3/6. if the dealer does a bad job or takes a longer time dealing hands, then he is not rewarded. tips are not required, they are optional. just like others have said, if the dealers complain about not making enough money, they can get another job. [/ QUOTE ] Mr.Pink(and you) was missing the point. Certain jobs pay less and offer cheaper services to the customer because they know that society says to tip them. You can disagree with that if you want(personally, I think its great becasue it ensures better service), but if you don't tip then you're really underpaying for the product because with no tips they would raise their prices and pay the workers more base pay. [/ QUOTE ] I originally replied to midfielderdave's post with [ QUOTE ] Cough up a buck you cheap bastard. [/ QUOTE ] which was Joe's perfect reply to Mr. Pink's speech (and that post).
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