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#131
10-26-2005, 09:12 AM
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Re: Dealers most hated and stiff report
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Wow, I'd sure like to meet you and spit on your face for a whole day. You'd be cool with that,right? [/ QUOTE ] No, but someone spitting in your face does not justify beating someone up or killing them. If you are too blind to see the difference your brain cannot function properly. Not everthing is black or white. 
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#132
10-26-2005, 09:45 AM
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Re: Dealers most hated and stiff report
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i am by no means a stingy tipper, i tip well, but there are a bunch of things that piss me off about some dealers: 1. what difference does it make if you dealt me a 1000$ pot or a 100$ one? if a pot was complicated and involved a sidepot, etc, and was handled well i will tip extra for that but other wise why should a dealer be tipped in proportion to the size of the pot? 2. there are way too many dealers who feel too goddamned entitled. i know so many dealers who do a mediocre job and still complain about average tips. STFU. there are a lot of people who get bent out of shape by this who shouldnt. [/ QUOTE ] Well said.
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#133
10-26-2005, 12:17 PM
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Re: Dealers most hated and stiff report
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[ QUOTE ] Wow, I'd sure like to meet you and spit on your face for a whole day. You'd be cool with that,right? [/ QUOTE ] No, but someone spitting in your face does not justify beating someone up or killing them. If you are too blind to see the difference your brain cannot function properly. Not everthing is black or white. [/ QUOTE ] Killing them? I don't think any sane person would do that, so I'm not sure why you keep bringing it up..... But what exactly does it justify? You saying "Hey, Sir, please don't spit in my face and..oh god! You spit right in my mouth when I was asking you not to spit in my face, oh god, why god why?" If someone spits in your face, its because you let them, I think its clear provocation and if they don't think that they will get knocked around some for it.. well, thats a lesson they need to learn quickly so they stop spitting in peoples faces. It's not exactly hygenic either, what if they have some kind of disease? Will standing their and turning the other cheek stop them? Will talk? Maybe it would if they were a reasonable person, but if they were reasonable they wouldn't be spitting on strangers to start with. In particular if its at your place of business, where you can't easily just leave, they absolutely deserve to be laid out on the ground and thrown out by the ass, possibly passing through a glass window on the way out if one is avalible. I mean, I may be an american as per your eariler accusation, but I'm a bleeding heart liberal american, and still I can't even start to see how a person would not think that was an offense where physical retaliation isn't understandable, and, in fact, be so horrifed that a person might think of beating up someone who spit on them that they felt compelled to post about it... Or to think that a person would be able to restrain themselves from some kind of outburst being confronted with that... unless I guess they were reasonably sure the spitter would whip them in a stand up fight and actully cared if they would at that point.... I don't know, maybe it's because I live in a civil community where people arn't jackoffs and don't normally go around spitting on people that I'm sure if one did it would shock someone in to a justified physical retaliation. Maybe things are diffrent where you live?
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#134
10-26-2005, 12:47 PM
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Re: From a dealer: VERY LONG
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[ QUOTE ] . When they did have dealers in the box in higher limit games, they were freaking MECHANICS!! [/ QUOTE ] May have been true in the past, but these days I'd like to see a mechanic rig the automatic shuffler... [/ QUOTE ] First the point you seem to have missed is dealers are there to protect the game. Did you miss the part about marked cards? Or the one on two colluders? AND...Most cardrooms have yet to go to auto shufflers on all the tables.
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#135
10-26-2005, 01:15 PM
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Re: From a dealer: VERY LONG
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[ QUOTE ] . When they did have dealers in the box in higher limit games, they were freaking MECHANICS!! [/ QUOTE ] May have been true in the past, but these days I'd like to see a mechanic rig the automatic shuffler... [/ QUOTE ] I can knock one of those out of action in under 10 seconds to force a hand shuffle ecery hand.
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#136
10-26-2005, 02:42 PM
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Re: From a dealer: VERY LONG
Great post although a little hyperbolic in spots (Over the years I've "sort of" learned to avoid this [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]).
When games were player dealt in the Gardena days you really saw atrocious dealing. The introduction of house dealers in the early eighties was when the poker boom first started in LA. Also note that Barry Greenstein 's book has some interesting things to say regarding the need to protect your cards in the big game. Wonder if others noticed that. ~ Rick PS I meant to post the related, somewhat whimsical and far more innocuous Tipping Story in this forum but screwed up and posted it in the B&M forum. Thanks ot Photoc for pointing out my mistake.
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#137
10-27-2005, 04:47 AM
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Re: From a dealer: VERY LONG
I won a pot the other day I probably shouldn't have because the player in the one seat didn't tip, and didn't protect his hand with a chip.
whoops. I didn't tip that hand,it felt a little wierd. but tipped more the next hand I won and at the end of the down.
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#138
10-27-2005, 05:03 AM
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Re: From a dealer: VERY LONG
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I won a pot the other day I probably shouldn't have because the player in the one seat didn't tip, and didn't protect his hand with a chip. whoops. I didn't tip that hand,it felt a little wierd. but tipped more the next hand I won and at the end of the down. [/ QUOTE ] Funny how accidents like that happen...especially with stiffs.
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#139
10-27-2005, 04:09 PM
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Re: From a dealer: VERY LONG
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I won a pot the other day I probably shouldn't have because the player in the one seat didn't tip, and didn't protect his hand with a chip. whoops. I didn't tip that hand,it felt a little wierd. but tipped more the next hand I won and at the end of the down. [/ QUOTE ] I saw an accident like that once. Player in the one seat is bitching at the dealer in a tournament. A couple hands later the player gets all-in and the dealer accidently grabs his cards out of his hands and mucks them.
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#140
10-27-2005, 07:00 PM
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Re: From a dealer: VERY LONG
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[ QUOTE ] I won a pot the other day I probably shouldn't have because the player in the one seat didn't tip, and didn't protect his hand with a chip. whoops. I didn't tip that hand,it felt a little wierd. but tipped more the next hand I won and at the end of the down. [/ QUOTE ] I saw an accident like that once. Player in the one seat is bitching at the dealer in a tournament. A couple hands later the player gets all-in and the dealer accidently grabs his cards out of his hands and mucks them. [/ QUOTE ] SAWEEET BABY!! I dont have the balls to do that tho.
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