How much does the increased rake at party effect us?

[w_alloy]

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We gotta all choose a day together as a community and not play. I'm sure the 2+2 community represents a good portion of players on party.

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This is a great idea. I would make a lot of money that day. Not that I dont respect the ideology and effort...

[Michael Davis]

"This is a great idea. I would make a lot of money that day. Not that I dont respect the ideology and effort..."

You should work for Party. You have the shortterm thinking down.

-Michael

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[Danenania]

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We gotta all choose a day together as a community and not play. I'm sure the 2+2 community represents a good portion of players on party.

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Lol. Nice try buddy.

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Perhaps as a percentage of the player base the 2+2 community is small, but in terms of sheer volume of hands played I'm sure we comprise a large percentage.

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I understand. I just think the idea is kind of silly. A.) Most people would lie and play anyway (in looser games). B.) I'd just be losing another thousand in EV on top of the extra rake hit. If it had any real chance of working it might be worth it, but Party doesn't seem to be too concerned with my financial state [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img].

[partygirluk]

My .13bb/100 figure was sadly way off.

[stigmata]

Am i correct in saying that this will mean that the 30/20 guys will have to tighten up?

At least one good thing could come from this! You guys really make my life difficult - It will be much easier for me if you have to tighen up some [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[partygirluk]

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We gotta all choose a day together as a community and not play. I'm sure the 2+2 community represents a good portion of players on party.

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Whilst this will have little/no effect, we have enough users to mass spam the 6 max tables with details of how bad the changes are, telling them to boycott party for another site, email support. We can do this spamming whilst sitting out at a table - which will further decrease party's revenue. Bear in mind that most of us have numerous aliases on the party skins too. IMO if we all act on this, it stands a very good chance of making a difference. It won't take long either, just find a few tables to sit down at, then copy and paste.

[Guy McSucker]

Rob,

Your pre-increase numbers don't look like the ones I was expecting. Can you do something for me? In PokerTracker's Summary tab, look up the average win rate of all players in these two batches of hands. (It's at the bottom of the big list of all players). Average win rate = rake. I think this will give us a better picture of what's going on.

I'd be very grateful and I think the forum would too.

Cheers,

Guy.

[MrBig30]

Are you sure? If it is just a simple average it might be way off. For example if a few players log 40K hands a month with 2.5+BB/100 and many many players do 1K hands and lose 5BB/100 the average is going to be close to -5BB/100.

[Guy McSucker]

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Are you sure? If it is just a simple average it might be way off. For example if a few players log 40K hands a month with 2.5+BB/100 and many many players do 1K hands and lose 5BB/100 the average is going to be close to -5BB/100.

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Yes I am sure.

Think about what happens if you look at a sample of one hand. Some players lose some money, one guy wins some money, and if you add up the amounts lost by the losers and subtract the amount won by the winner, you end up with the rake that was taken in that pot.

So for each individual hand, the average win at the table is the rake taken.

For a sample of 20,000 hands, the same applies, 20,000 times over.

Guy.