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Old 08-01-2005, 06:13 PM
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Old 08-01-2005, 06:15 PM
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Old 08-01-2005, 06:33 PM
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Um, everybody's averages jumped in 1993.

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Old 08-01-2005, 06:36 PM
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Old 08-01-2005, 06:49 PM
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Um, everybody's averages jumped in 1993.

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Part of hit had to be expansion.
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Old 08-01-2005, 08:31 PM
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Yeah, how much did rockies playing at Mile High affect that? That place had to be worse than Coors for average, huge alleys, very short left field, bad pitching, LOL
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Old 08-02-2005, 12:49 AM
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Steriods do help, if you want proof look at Brady Anderson's numbers in 95 then look at 96.


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Exactly right. While we're on the subject, let's call out one of the most obvious Steroids users of the 20th century, Wade Boggs. Look at his 1987. It makes me sick. 24 home runs? His next highest total was 11 in a lefty friendly Yankee Stadium in 1994.

It is absolutely impossible that this was a freak occurence or a fluke, he was obviously juiced. And now he's in the hall of fame. What a travesty.

Wade Boggs, Obvious Juicer

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I can't figure out if you are serious or not.
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Old 08-02-2005, 02:07 AM
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Um, everybody's averages jumped in 1993.

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Plenty of reasons.

-Expansion
-More hitter friendly ballparks.
-The growing trend of "whip-saw," thin handled bats.
-The growing trend of weight-training
-Possible "juiced" balls.

But the fact is, the league batting average jumped significantly in 1993. Guys like Fred McGriff and Raffy get hurt by this because some of their best years came pre-explosion.
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Old 08-02-2005, 10:50 AM
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Because there's nothing worse in any sport than when a game is thrown.

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This is very very true. However, let's also think about this: The single season home run record and the career home run record are absolutely the two most cherished records in the history of American sports. I don't know how much people around the world care about other records, but these may be the two most cherished records in the entire world. There is/was no more significant number in all of sports than 61. If it turns out that Bonds, McGuire, and Sosa took steroids in order to break this record, which is not by any means completely unlikely, then we have lost something very special to lying and cheating. Even the speculation about it ruins the whole thing.

One of the great things about baseball is its history, including the fans' love of its stats and its records. Even the suspicion that these records could be tainted is threatening to blow the whole thing. Stats are part of what makes baseball great and we're on the verge of making the whole record book worthless.
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Old 08-02-2005, 10:52 AM
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I'll just note that fans don't really seem to care about steroid use as much as you think they do. Sure there are some that do, but the people that really care are the players that aren't using.

Attendance records have been sky-high since the steroid boom of the 90s. Fans like seeing a guy on their team hit 50 home runs in a year, even if he is juiced.
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