best baseball player ever?

[Jack of Arcades]

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See my first post in this thread, you have to make some adjustment to Ruth''s numbers because he did them in one of the weakest leagus in history.

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How are you measuring league strength?

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This isn't something I've done statistically, although I imagine the way to do it would be to measure the gap between the top x% hitters and bottom x% hitters, same with pitchers. A large gap would indicate a weak league. I haven't looked into it.

[Dead]

Well, we all know that the reason for LF, 1B, and RF being the home base for great hitters is because you don't have to be fantastic defensively to field those positions, like you have to be to play 2B, SS, C, etc.

But I think this is changing somewhat. Soriano had a decent year last year, and so did Bret Boone.

[Voltron87]

Dead, I'm really not sure the juxtaposition of OJ and "Go Yankees!!?!" is working.

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Dead, I'm really not sure the juxtaposition of OJ and "Go Yankees!!?!" is working.

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Well, I like OJ, and I am a Bills fan. But it is not football season, and I am a Yankees fan, so.. meh.

[Jack of Arcades]

Last year offensive rankings, best to worst:

LF
1B
RF
CF
3B
2B
SS
C

[Dead]

I'll repeat what I said above:

"we all know that the reason for LF, 1B, and RF being the home base for great hitters is because you don't have to be fantastic defensively to field those positions, like you have to be to play 2B, SS, C, etc."

Do you agree with that statement?

I wasn't saying that second baseman were going to explode offensively in the next few years, and pass 1B's. I was just saying that the average second baseman is more productive offensively than the second baseman of, say, 10-15 years ago. At least that's what I think.

[Jack of Arcades]

You chose the wrong second basemen, anyway. Loretta and Kent were 1 and 2.

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Do you agree with that statement?

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No. For every Mark Loretta, there's a Bill Hall.

[Dead]

That's not the statement I am talking about. I am talking about THIS one:

"we all know that the reason for LF, 1B, and RF being the home base for great hitters is because you don't have to be fantastic defensively to field those positions, like you have to be to play 2B, SS, C, etc."

You're saying that you don't agree with this?

[Jack of Arcades]

Oh, sure, I agree with that one. Also, many of the best hitters are very large which hinders speed, etc.

[Dead]

Which is why A-Rod will eventually be considered one of the greatest players, if not the greatest, ever.

He is the only true 40-40 guy in the game. He combines awesome power with blinding speed, and a fantastic glove to boot.