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Old 04-12-2005, 01:11 AM
Clarkmeister Clarkmeister is offline
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Default Re: The Yankees Actually Make Me Sick

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the Sox had the biggest payroll all throughout the 80s.

Please cite your source.

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He can't.
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Old 04-12-2005, 01:14 AM
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Default Re: The Yankees Actually Make Me Sick

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the Sox had the biggest payroll all throughout the 80s.

Please cite your source.

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He can't.

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hes going on a hunch
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Old 04-12-2005, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: The Yankees Actually Make Me Sick

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The salary cap in the NFL is avoided all the time. Lawyers find ways to massage it.

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source please

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Lmao.

It's common knowledge. I don't need to cite sources for common knowledge.

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Was it common knowledge that the yank bats were going to get to wakefield early and often as well?
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Old 04-12-2005, 02:21 AM
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The salary cap in the NFL is avoided all the time. Lawyers find ways to massage it.

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source please

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Lmao.

It's common knowledge. I don't need to cite sources for common knowledge.

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Was it common knowledge that the yank bats were going to get to wakefield early and often as well?

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yeah, i mean they usually beat him up so bad!
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Old 04-12-2005, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: The Yankees Actually Make Me Sick

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The salary cap in the NFL is avoided all the time. Lawyers find ways to massage it.

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source please

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Lmao.

It's common knowledge. I don't need to cite sources for common knowledge.

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Was it common knowledge that the yank bats were going to get to wakefield early and often as well?

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I will answer this question once you post a larger picture of your avatar.
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Old 04-12-2005, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: The Yankees Actually Make Me Sick

The real key, if they ever instituted a salary cap, would be to include a salary floor. Make teams spend a minimum amount, so they can't just pocket the MLB welfare.

BTW, I have no problem with the Yankees spending more than everyone else, but if you had a reasonable cap, with a floor, you could cut back the disparity between the haves and the have-nots. I just think it's wrong that the Yankees payroll exceeds that of the five lowest-payroll teams combined.

I'd be perfectly happy if the highest payroll in MLB was no more than double the lowest, instead of the six or seven times it is now.
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Old 04-12-2005, 08:07 AM
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Default Re: The Yankees Actually Make Me Sick

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The salary cap in the NFL is avoided all the time. Lawyers find ways to massage it.

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source please

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Lmao.

It's common knowledge. I don't need to cite sources for common knowledge.

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No, you do, b/c you're a fool who lacks credibility. Please name a situation when the NFL salary cap, over the long run, has 'been avoided' as you said.
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Old 04-12-2005, 09:12 AM
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Default Re: The Yankees Actually Make Me Sick

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The salary cap in the NFL is avoided all the time. Lawyers find ways to massage it.

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source please

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Lmao.

It's common knowledge. I don't need to cite sources for common knowledge.

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Wrong.

On a yearly basis, there are obviously times where the salary cap number is "avoided" (this is done by pro-rating the signing bonuses given out to players). However, this is made up for in later years, where the team is up against the salary cap without spending anywhere near the amount they can. This is completely legal according to NFL rules

This is not avoiding the salary cap. (Although I'm sure you're going to come in and say that it is, because the team is paying out more than the cap number in a certain year)

The NFL salary cap basically gives the teams the ability to choose their own salary cap within a specific year, as long as they stay below the total dollar amount over a period of years. Example:

Over 5 years the teams can spend a total of $400 million dollars. The "salary cap" is set at $70 million the first year, and goes up $5 million each year.

Team A decides to spend $120 million in year 1 on player bonuses and salaries. They spend $55 million in salaries (all of which count against the cap in year 1) and $65 million in bonuses. The bonuses are spread out over the next 5 years, so only $13 million counts against the cap this year. This is fine according the the NFL rules. Sure, Team A gets an advantage this year because they can get better players with the higher bonuses. However, in subsequent years, they aren't able to sign as many or as quality free agents, because they'll have $13 million dollars less each year due to the bonuses they gave out in Year 1.

They can rework contracts all they want, but in the end they'll end up with one (or more) years where they're in salary cap hell (think 49ers of a few years ago, or the Titans of today). They have no cap room, have to release good players in order to get under the salary cap, and can't afford to sign any free agents for above the league minimum.

Truly "avoiding" the salary cap is not allowed and results in punishment (see: Denver Broncos losing draft picks)
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Old 04-12-2005, 10:20 AM
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It's simple supply and demand.

A-Rod is the best in the game. Therefore, he makes the most money.

There are very few A-Rod's. There are plenty of Gabe Kapler's and Trot Nixon's.

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Interestingly enough, mediocre players like Kapler and Nixon have rings while A-Rod has none. When A-Rod stops bringing every team he plays for down, I'll be impressed.

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Fine, kyro.

Jeter&gt; Nixon and Kapler. Jeter has 4 rings.

So your argument is ridic.

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Jeter is a better player than both those guys. But A-Rod gets paid an exorbitant amount of money to put up decent numbers and not much else. He doesn't make his team better. And as much as I despise the Yankees, Jeter grows on me because that's EXACTLY what he does. I'd pay more for Jeter than A-Rod.

I'm not saying that Nixon and Kapler are better than A-Rod. They're not. They do what they're paid to do. They're role players on a solid team and they have rings to show for it.
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Old 04-12-2005, 10:22 AM
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Default Re: The Yankees Actually Make Me Sick

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It's simple supply and demand.

A-Rod is the best in the game. Therefore, he makes the most money.

There are very few A-Rod's. There are plenty of Gabe Kapler's and Trot Nixon's.

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Interestingly enough, mediocre players like Kapler and Nixon have rings while A-Rod has none. When A-Rod stops bringing every team he plays for down, I'll be impressed.

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Jesus, do you guys even play poker? What the hell?

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I'm not sure what the point of this question is. Regardless, I'll answer it as best as I can.

Yes.
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