Sayings that people totally butcher.....

[ddubois]

Your going to have to show me what you beleive to be a proper usage then.

[jdl22]

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"Orientated"
----not a word.

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really?

[Slow Play Ray]

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Your going to have to show me what you beleive to be a proper usage then.

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I already did: "OOT posters have no nuts, so you cannot kick them in the nuts"

This statement "begs the question." For the record, this phrase was not necessarily meant to be followed up with the question it begs, since it is implied in the original statement. But anyway, in this case, "the question" would be "is it even accurate that OOT posters have no nuts in the first place?"

Read the wikipedia entry I linked to - it explains it better than I can.

It's time for me to go get drunk.

*Edit* One more interesting passage from wiki:

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Modern usage controversy
More recently, to beg the question has been used as a synonym for "to raise the question", or to indicate that "the question really ought to be addressed". For example, "This year's budget deficit is half a trillion dollars. This begs the question: how are we ever going to balance the budget?" This usage is often sharply criticized by proponents of the traditional meaning, but has nonetheless come into sufficiently widespread use that it is now the most common use of the term. Careful usage still favors phrases such as "invites the question" or "raises the question".

Arguments over whether the newer usage should be considered incorrect are an example of debate over linguistic prescription and description.

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[fingokra]

the over use of "utilize"

seldom is this word needed
"use" is more concise without losing meaning
99% of the uses of "utilize" are pretense

[mostsmooth]

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"Orientated"
----not a word. Its oriented.


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orientated is a word, your thread svcks

[Slow Play Ray]

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"Orientated"
----not a word. Its oriented.


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orientated is a word

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this has been established no less than 4 times now.

[ddubois]

Ok, I think I see now. I think intermingling example usage with the rest of your text has the effect of making your example less clear than you might like.

Passage #3:
OOT posters have no nuts, so you cannot kick them in the nuts. This statement begs the question.

So this is how you would use this phrase? You would actually say the above when corresponding with someone? When I read this, my mind immediately says "What question?". Seriously, if that's correct usage, [censored] correct usage.

[mostsmooth]

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"Orientated"
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orientated is a word

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this has been established no less than 5 times now.

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in this thread? i didnt read it. did they also establish this thread svcks?

[Slow Play Ray]

Here is a much simpler example, not forcibly tailored to OOT posters' lack of nuts:

This painting is trash because it is obviously worthless.

This statement begs the question.

[Slow Play Ray]

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in this thread? i didnt read it. did they also establish this thread svcks?

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Looks 4 posts above yours for one example.

And no - that's why I deleted that part from the quote.