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08-01-2005, 05:35 PM
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Re: Palmiero tests positive for steroids?
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Again, if it didn't actually help, I think players would know. [/ QUOTE ] Never overestimate the mind of the pro athlete. Always remember that. 
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#112
08-01-2005, 05:36 PM
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Re: The irony of Sandberg\'s HoF induction speech
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i know someone who worked for the cubs back then.... and it was not a rumor. raffy was boning cindy sandberg. do your eally think he was traded because they thought mark grace would end up a better power hitter then raffy??? [/ QUOTE ] but there was just as strong a rumor that mark grace was ALSO sleeping with her at the time.
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#113
08-01-2005, 05:37 PM
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Re: Palmiero tests positive for steroids?
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Oh, and, FWIW, I put Bonds in the hall and I'm 1000% certain he took steroids. [/ QUOTE ] Well I think everyone is certain he took steroids, he did admit it. Of course....he didn't know he was using steriods, just "the cream" and "the clear"....
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#114
08-01-2005, 05:42 PM
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Re: Palmiero tests positive for steroids?
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[ QUOTE ] Should be interesting to hear what over-the-counter supplement he used that has some small banned ingredient that he didn't know about. [/ QUOTE ] Well, if he does his research, it shouldn't be that hard. One of the health professors at GT sent off 10 or 12 common over the counter supplements to another University lab in California to have them analyzed. From the legal, OTC pills/powders he sent out, none had every ingredient on the label, a 7 had illegal steroids in them. [/ QUOTE ] That sounds like complete bullshit. Reference please? eastbay
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#115
08-01-2005, 05:52 PM
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Re: Palmiero tests positive for steroids?
Interesting stats:
Palmeiro's stats BEFORE Mr. Canseco joined the Texas Rangers in 1992 and introduced Raffy to the roids: Years 1986-1992 averages: Avg: .265 HR: 12 RBI: 60 After Canseco's stint with Texas look what happened: Years 1993-2003 averages: Avg: .288 HR: 39 RBI: 115 Coincedience?
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#116
08-01-2005, 06:02 PM
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Re: Palmiero tests positive for steroids?
Canseco is more credible than most people thought. I believe him and I believe that most of the stuff he wrote in his book is true.
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#117
08-01-2005, 06:03 PM
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Re: Palmiero tests positive for steroids?
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Interesting stats: Palmeiro's stats BEFORE Mr. Canseco joined the Texas Rangers in 1992 and introduced Raffy to the roids: Years 1986-1992 averages: Avg: .265 HR: 12 RBI: 60 After Canseco's stint with Texas look what happened: Years 1993-2003 averages: Avg: .288 HR: 39 RBI: 115 Coincedience? [/ QUOTE ] no. raffy is one of the few that canseco admitted to injecting PERSONALLY. raffy's now just a lying dirtbag.
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#118
08-01-2005, 06:03 PM
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Re: Palmiero tests positive for steroids?
Me too. I think McGuire's physical gains mirrored Canseco's for their years together in Oakland.
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#119
08-01-2005, 06:11 PM
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Re: Palmiero tests positive for steroids?
Um, everybody's averages jumped in 1993.
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#120
08-01-2005, 06:12 PM
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Um, everybody's averages jumped in 1993. [/ QUOTE ] To clarify, Rafael Palmeiro's OPS+ (OPS adjusted for park and era, 100 is average): 1991: 155 1993: 150
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