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Old 07-21-2005, 04:32 PM
jakethebake jakethebake is offline
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Default Re: *** OFFICIAL Lance in France with Tight Pants thread ***

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there was actually talk of Vinokurov being the leader of discovery next year.

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Who cares? Once Lance is done, in the US the Tour will revert to the obscure status it deserves.

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watch yourself...

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He's right though, regardless of what anyone thinks of the race personally.
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Old 07-21-2005, 04:38 PM
Patrick del Poker Grande Patrick del Poker Grande is offline
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Default Re: *** OFFICIAL Lance in France with Tight Pants thread ***

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there was actually talk of Vinokurov being the leader of discovery next year.

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Who cares? Once Lance is done, in the US the Tour will revert to the obscure status it deserves.

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watch yourself...

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He's right though, regardless of what anyone thinks of the race personally.

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Anyone who wants it to continue to be strong here better hope Tyler Hamilton gets off the dope and pulls something strong. Floyd Landis? Who else? Nobody can come close to Lance, but you've got to have someone to at least carry some interest here.
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Old 07-21-2005, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: *** OFFICIAL Lance in France with Tight Pants thread ***

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there was actually talk of Vinokurov being the leader of discovery next year.

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Who cares? Once Lance is done, in the US the Tour will revert to the obscure status it deserves.

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watch yourself...

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He's right though, regardless of what anyone thinks of the race personally.

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remove the it deserves and I don't disagree with Clarkmeister's post.

The Tour has obviously received a lot of interest in the US over the last 7 years due to Lance's performances and will no doubt lose some of that interest with Lance retiring. However, interest in the tour had been increasing in the US prior to Lance's winning performances, so while interest will drop it won't disappear into total obscurity.
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Old 07-21-2005, 05:24 PM
Patrick del Poker Grande Patrick del Poker Grande is offline
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Default Re: *** OFFICIAL Lance in France with Tight Pants thread ***

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The Tour has obviously received a lot of interest in the US over the last 7 years due to Lance's performances and will no doubt lose some of that interest with Lance retiring. However, interest in the tour had been increasing in the US prior to Lance's winning performances, so while interest will drop it won't disappear into total obscurity.

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... for at least 2 or 3 years.
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Old 07-21-2005, 05:38 PM
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The fact that they tried to rig the course this year to stop Lance from winning, in my mind, completely validates that it's a non-event.

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Can someone elaborate on that? I hadnt heard of this accusation.

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Old 07-21-2005, 08:42 PM
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Who cares? Once Lance is done, in the US the Tour will revert to the obscure status it deserves.

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[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] It does not deserve an obscure status. It is best sporting event that is being arranged. Not many sports where all nationalities cheer for all nationalities.

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The fact that they tried to rig the course this year to stop Lance from winning, in my mind, completely validates that it's a non-event.

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kinda like messing with the masters to make it harder for tiger to win?
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Old 07-22-2005, 05:14 AM
Arnfinn Madsen Arnfinn Madsen is offline
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Default Re: *** OFFICIAL Lance in France with Tight Pants thread ***

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there was actually talk of Vinokurov being the leader of discovery next year.

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Who cares? Once Lance is done, in the US the Tour will revert to the obscure status it deserves.

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[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] It does not deserve an obscure status. It is best sporting event that is being arranged. Not many sports where all nationalities cheer for all nationalities.

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The fact that they tried to rig the course this year to stop Lance from winning, in my mind, completely validates that it's a non-event.

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kinda like messing with the masters to make it harder for tiger to win?

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[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Living its own life this claim now. It is completely ridicolous. This years course suits Armstrong perfectly. Many steep hills near finishes (if they would be less steep it would benefit other riders) and the opening time trial was longer than usual (big Armstrong benefit). In addition the second last stage is a hilly time trial just as designed to make Armstrong win the whole thing.

Is it rigged in Armstrong's favor? No, since the course was almost finished more than a year ago and then everybody believed Armstrong would not go in 2005.
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Old 07-24-2005, 03:37 PM
Arnfinn Madsen Arnfinn Madsen is offline
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Yooooohoooooo!!!!!!11

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WTG, Thor!
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Old 07-24-2005, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: *** OFFICIAL Lance in France with Tight Pants thread ***

congrats
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Old 07-24-2005, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: *** OFFICIAL Lance in France with Tight Pants thread ***

Congrats man.

You can thank team discovery and the gc contenders for not reeling in breakaways and not getting in the break. I was happy to see long breakaways making it once Hushovd was dressed in green. Makes it a lot easier to defend.

Overall this tour was a bit boring compared to past tours. It was just Armstrong putting down attacks and grinding out time gains. Pretty good from a strategic point of view, especially the collapse of T-Mobile and their 3 pronged attack. Lacked a big exciting moment or stage. Next years should be amazing and wide open.

Anybody know who Discovery will use as their top GC man for the Vuelta? My guess is Azevedo. Be interesting to see if they can get the grand tour sweep with a different rider in each one. Don't think that's ever been done. Will be difficult with Liberty Seguros and Euskaltel looking for a good showing after not having such a good tour.

edit: You should use this image from the final podium:
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