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Old 06-16-2005, 12:15 PM
jedi jedi is offline
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Default Re: ONLINE POKER IS 100% RIGGED

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Online Poker not being rigged have two arguments to defend it: They are making too much money to rig it and the have a credibility to protect.


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Online poker being rigged have NO arguments to defend it.

The cards do a good job of dealing bad beats by themselves. If they wanted more money, they'd increase the rake by 1%. Conspiracy theorists underestimate how much rake is taken in these games.
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Old 06-16-2005, 03:54 PM
Al Schoonmaker Al Schoonmaker is offline
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Default Re: ONLINE POKER IS 100% RIGGED

Conspiracy thinkers also ignore the fact that they play FAR more hands per hour online. If someone is playing four tables, he is seeing about TEN times as many hands per hour as someone playing in a B&M room. Rare events happen more often just because there are more hands.

The conspiracy theorists are desperate to find an excuse for the fact that they lose. They can't accept reality: They lose because they play poorly.

Regards,

Al
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Old 06-16-2005, 04:10 PM
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  #104  
Old 06-16-2005, 06:05 PM
tylerdurden tylerdurden is offline
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Default Re: ONLINE POKER IS 100% RIGGED

I've been avoiding this thread since it's obviously retarded, but now I'm a believer. I just finished the Pokerstars 20% bonus, and on the NEXT hand, I get QQ in EP, raise, get one caller, flop QTx all spades, turn a boat with Td, and run into pocket TT. wiping out most of my bonus. It can't get any more rigged than that.
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Old 06-16-2005, 06:47 PM
BarronVangorToth BarronVangorToth is offline
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Default Re: ONLINE POKER IS 100% RIGGED

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I think one knows when he plays poorly. Do you know anyone that makes a constent living off online Poker?

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Your first statement is off, as a vast majority of poker players do NOT play well, but if you asked them, most would say that they do.

The second is likewise strange as there are dozens (hundreds?) of people on this site (myself included) who make more money playing online poker than most do with full-time jobs ... and many of us (myself included) play part-time.

And, no, I'm not a shill for a site (I don't even get any rake-back deal -- how pathetic is that?!?!).

To summarize: Dr. Al, as per his usual, is dead-on with his comments.

Barron Vangor Toth
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Old 06-16-2005, 08:50 PM
RedManPlus RedManPlus is offline
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Default Re: ONLINE POKER IS 100% RIGGED

I have no idea just ** HOW MUCH ** rigged online poker is...
There is absolutely no proof one way or the other.

And the 2 arguements:

(a) They are making too much money to cheat
(b) They have "reputations" to protect

Are ludicrously naive and juvenile.
How old are you guys? Are you all 18?

The NYSE Specialists CHEAT all the time.
I make 100 trades/day...
And get cheated on about 10%.
Nothing I can do...
Just absorb it as the cost of doing business.

Online casino fraud...
MUST be waaaay higher stock exchange fraud.

And you have to understand software system development.
These poker servers and clients went through extensive testing.

To test the software...
You have to deal ** pre-programmed sequences **...
To correct a problem...
And to make sure all situations are debugged.

So every poker server has built in "testing hooks"...
Whereby they can easily deal preprogrammed sequences.

This is all run from India or whatever...
Life is cheap in India...
Who's gonna talk? To whom? For what?

Also...
You zombies completely ignore the issue...
That pros and poker sites are in DIRECT competition...
For the fish money.

The easiest way to boost revenue...
Would be to ban the 5% best players...
And heavily advertize your site as strictly non-pro.

This will happen sooner than anyone thinks.
In InterTops TOS... pros are already banned.


Now I'm really getting paranoid...
I'll bet half the posters here are Bots.

Sklansky is probably using Bots to drive up the traffic...
So he can charge double for all those banner ads.

Say it ain't so.

If you can't trust David...
Then life has no meaning.

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Old 06-16-2005, 11:40 PM
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Default Re: ONLINE POKER IS 100% RIGGED

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Dealt Ace whatever suited. Flop the flush. Winner 99.999999999999999999999999999% of the time.

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lol.

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Ace jack dealt. Opponent goes all in, I call.

I am an experienced player, I play only good hands, Ace Eight

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lol.

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I lose with the better hand, 75% of the time.
This very evening, I played ONE hand at a table, was given diamonds and hit the flush. I was against one other player, my flush was queen high. This was probably the first hand in thirty that I deemed playable. Imagine my disgust when he turned over a king high flush.

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lol.

So basically, you can make up random statistics, call all-ins with AJ, deem A8 a wonderful hand, and get upset when you play Qxs garbage and it gets beat by Kxs garbage, therefore online poker is rigged?

Funny man.
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Old 06-17-2005, 01:02 AM
King_Striker King_Striker is offline
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Old 06-17-2005, 09:20 AM
ianlippert ianlippert is offline
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Default Re: Thought of the Day - Rigged Poker and Chess

what you conspiracy theorists dont understand is that the site would make way more money increasing their rake by .01% than they ever would with rigging/shills/any other crazy stuff you can come up with. The best part is that none of the fish would notice, only the pros that keep track of that stuff would. The pros would leave, leaving what you claim to be the perfect situation for the sites: fish only.

If you think you are being cheated, dont play!
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Old 06-17-2005, 03:21 PM
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