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#101
03-10-2005, 08:29 AM
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Re: Greatest footballer ever?
The best footballers in the world are the best by merit of being better than millions and millions of other aspiring footballers.
The best basketball players in the world are the best by merit of being better than millions and millions of other apsiring basketball players. Pele and Michael Jordan are both freakishly athletically gifted. To claim that one is clearly better than the other is just plain wrong. 
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#102
03-10-2005, 08:35 AM
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Re: Greatest footballer ever?
So your saying that if you goto a country,utterly suppress its local population, exlpoit it economicaly and refuse at all times to play the Kings game (cricket) with the local riff raff they are more likely to take said game into there very souls.
The whole point is that our colonies should have hated cricket and everything it stood for. However the pure brilliance of the sport enabled it transcend the normal dominant considerations of politics/race/religion and led the local population to embrace it utterly. You will never observe a similar phenomenon with Yank "sports". To any rational mind free of the simply knee jerk mentality of patriotism it is clear that: Sports of her Majesty> Septic tank "sports".
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#103
03-10-2005, 08:40 AM
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I never said Jordan was more gifted than Pele. But he is waaaaaaaaaaaay more gifted than, say, Landon Donovan. And that is the point.
BTW, I like soccer. I am currently living in Spain, watched Champions League the past 2 nights, and having Winning Eleven in my PS2. But I still think you are in denial if you don't think the US would be the dominant soccer power if that sport was #1 here.
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#104
03-10-2005, 08:42 AM
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I never said Jordan was more gifted than Pele. But he is waaaaaaaaaaaay more gifted than, say, Landon Donovan. And that is the point. [/ QUOTE ] Wtf kind of point is that?
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#105
03-10-2005, 08:42 AM
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Compare this to the American experience. You have had over half a century of military and cultural dominence and your troops stationed all Europe and Asia, can we observe a similar phenomonen. Of course not. [/ QUOTE ] The world was already obsessed with football during America's military dominance. Moreover, America's military dominance was not, unlike England, accompanied by an attempt to alter the cultures of the countries it occupied.
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#106
03-10-2005, 08:44 AM
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[ QUOTE ] I never said Jordan was more gifted than Pele. But he is waaaaaaaaaaaay more gifted than, say, Landon Donovan. And that is the point. [/ QUOTE ] Wtf kind of point is that? [/ QUOTE ] Maybe that there is a huge gap in the US between the athletic prowess of athletes in our top sports and our athletes that play soccer?
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#107
03-10-2005, 08:45 AM
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I never said Jordan was more gifted than Pele. But he is waaaaaaaaaaaay more gifted than, say, Landon Donovan. And that is the point. [/ QUOTE ] What is your point? He is also way more talented than almost any other basketballer ever.
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#108
03-10-2005, 08:46 AM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I never said Jordan was more gifted than Pele. But he is waaaaaaaaaaaay more gifted than, say, Landon Donovan. And that is the point. [/ QUOTE ] Wtf kind of point is that? [/ QUOTE ] Maybe that there is a huge gap in the US between the athletic prowess of athletes in our top sports and our athletes that play soccer? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah and there is a huge gap in the athletic prowess of David Beckham and England's top basketball player - what are you trying to say?
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#109
03-10-2005, 08:46 AM
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Re: Greatest footballer ever?
Then replace Jordan with James.
Edit - partyuk, dear god, you can't be this dense. You can disagree with me but don't feign misunderstanding. The US is already top 10 in soccer, and we are not using our top athletes. That is the point. Most of the guys who would be our best players are playing another sport. You had to have figured that out. Basically, we can all agree on the following 2 things: 1 - The US is currently decent at soccer 2 - Most of our best athletes don't play soccer. 3 - The US would be much better if soccer was our #1 sport. I think "much better" would be number 1. Other people don't, and that is probably as far as this can go.
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