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Old 08-18-2004, 03:01 PM
elwoodblues elwoodblues is offline
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Default Re: \"This is strictly business, it\'s not personal!\"

Yet you require mind reading when you reply comparing the number of dead soldiers with traffic accidents.
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Old 08-18-2004, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: \"This is strictly business, it\'s not personal!\"

I was also making a valid point: that this number is much ballyhooed by those opposed to the war, but is actually a much smaller number of deaths than deaths from many other causes (even many entirely needless causes, such as drunk driving).

My point was not to diminish the importance of those deaths but rather to put them in perspective. It is important to keep such things in perspective, especially when people are using howling about something in place of an argument. Much like an attorney may do in a trial, engendering sympathy for one side does not change the underlying arguments of the case. It is, simply put, a questionable, and often irrelevant and distracting, sort of tactic.

Putting something on a more personal emotional level does not change the arguments pro or con in any way. Cyrus was attempting to do this, and what's more, he was doing it out of the blue in an apparently unrelated thread.
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Old 08-18-2004, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: \"This is strictly business, it\'s not personal!\"

Okay let's put it in perspective.

How many people have been killed in Iraq because Bush ordered them to go there?

How many people have been killed by people driving drunk because Bush ordered them to drink and drive?
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Old 08-18-2004, 05:18 PM
ThaSaltCracka ThaSaltCracka is offline
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Default Re: \"This is strictly business, it\'s not personal!\"

MMMMMM,
I think you are the one lacking perspective here.
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Old 08-18-2004, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: \"This is strictly business, it\'s not personal!\"

Maybe so...why, may I ask, do you think that?
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Old 08-18-2004, 07:04 PM
ThaSaltCracka ThaSaltCracka is offline
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Default Re: \"This is strictly business, it\'s not personal!\"

First of all, I just want to say, I am sure you are not trying to make the deaths of our soldiers insignifcant. But lets think about this situation.....
We have 950 troops dead in Iraq, and that may be a small number in the whole history of wars, but thats a large and significant number, especially when you consider how we were told we were going to steam roll Iraq and be embraced with open arms..... only part of this happened. We were told Saddam had direct connections with Al-Qaeda and that he had WMD's, neither of which were entirely true. Now what we have here is a war that was sold to us, a war that many people accepted blindly by a lot of people. IMO, 950 people is a lot of troops killed, especially for a war that was not neccesary. Put those deaths in perspective man, was it worth their lives? I doubt it, and I am starting to have my doubts Iraq will get better.
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