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Old 10-23-2005, 05:49 PM
Notorious G.O.B. Notorious G.O.B. is offline
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Default Re: Negreanu says....

No real reason to bump this thread, but Lederer posted on the full tilt forum a couple months ago about how he screwed up the analysis of this hand. He agrees that there is no way Daniel would hold a six in this spot.
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Old 10-23-2005, 06:33 PM
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Default Re: Negreanu says....

Did Lederer make any mention of how many 23-year-olds he had?
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Old 10-23-2005, 09:43 PM
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Default Re: Negreanu says....

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No real reason to bump this thread, but Lederer posted on the full tilt forum a couple months ago about how he screwed up the analysis of this hand. He agrees that there is no way Daniel would hold a six in this spot.

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That's definitely good to know. Do you have the link by any chance? I respect Lederer's poker skills & knowledge, and figured he had either misspoken, or didn't think enough about the situation. The odds that DN had a 6 were practially nil -- but the odds that he had an A, and would call almost any bet from Ted, were pretty good. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-23-2005, 10:30 PM
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Default Re: Negreanu says....

More like Howard solved the problem if a 6 was a possible holding but if you follow the pre-flop action no good player can have a 6. If a 6 isn't possible then it can't be 50-50. Not rocket science, simply common sense applied.

Thus if you use the correct math you would get the right conclusion. However this is a much simplier situation not needing math once you realize a 6 isn't possible since that gives you the answer.
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Old 10-24-2005, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: Negreanu says....

pokerforums.fulltiltpoker.com, and go to the 'ask the pros' section. Something like 'Ted Forrest AA hand' I guess, or just do a search on Howard's name.
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Old 10-24-2005, 10:00 AM
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Default Re: Negreanu says....

Link to Howard's admission of error:

http://pokerforums.fulltiltpoker.com...ht=ted+forrest
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Old 10-24-2005, 10:07 AM
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Found it: http://pokerforums.fulltiltpoker.com...r-play276.html

7 minutes too slow. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-24-2005, 06:57 PM
Vincent Lepore Vincent Lepore is offline
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Default Re: Negreanu says....

Lederrer: [ QUOTE ]
I should have also realized that there was almost no chance Daniel could have a 6 in his hand. Unless he had 66 before the flop, which he could not have given the three 6's on the flop

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There were not 3 6's on the flop only 2.

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