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Old 10-08-2005, 07:37 PM
goodguy_1 goodguy_1 is offline
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If the lack of rake-back leads to everyone dispersing to various sites (like Prima or crypto or other RB-type sites) then I think the games at Party could actually wind up being better in the long-run.


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add in the fact that many TAGS who got by on subpar winrates including rakeback will no longer be playing for a living.
Luckily for me I dont rely much on rakeback at all anymore. I spread my action over half a dozen sites.

Many people in the biz are screwed hugely by this specifically:
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-marginal pros. Those newbies pros who were heavily susidized by rakeback and needed rakeback to make it work are going to drop out of Party's pool of players. I would conservatively guess that would immediately be at least 25% of pros on Party.

Alot of marginal pros are going to get busted in the next few months if they arent careful.
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Old 10-08-2005, 07:38 PM
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Donkeys of the world unite! You have nothing to lose but your money.
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Old 10-08-2005, 07:38 PM
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You guys are taking this too seriously. I'm playing Eurobet right now and its plenty fishy.

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Time will tell. But my guess is that the 2+2:fish ratio at Empire and Eurobet is not nearly what we're used to.
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Old 10-08-2005, 07:39 PM
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Donkeys of the world unite!

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Old 10-08-2005, 07:39 PM
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Alot of marginal pros are going to get busted in the next few months if they arent careful.

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This is just what I was thinking. I bet a lot of these pros undestimated how important rakeback was to their winrate.
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Old 10-08-2005, 07:40 PM
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how many people log on to intertops to play SNGs besides pros?

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Yeah, it's hard to imagine why the casino/cardroom division attached to one of the largest online sportsbooks would attract any gamblers ([img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]?).
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Old 10-08-2005, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: Tables different on Party vs Skins

party has a freaking sidebet bar on games now! you can bet on the flop color! WTF?
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Old 10-08-2005, 07:42 PM
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I would expect a move as big as this to have been announced to the London Stock Exchange.


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you would think so!

In the UK is there an equivalent to our RegFD here in the States?

The stock may rally initially-but really this just clarifies how bogus Party's Total Player numbers were from the start.

PRTY is going to be cut in half with the next year to below 50. I also see major shareholder lawsuits coming.

Their player counts and estmates of growth have been bogus from the getgo. Anybody that understood the segmentation of their revenues saw this coming.
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Old 10-08-2005, 07:43 PM
XxGodJrxX XxGodJrxX is offline
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If the marginal pros start busting out, then it could be that this is simply a recession. The pros bust out, fish percentage rises, everybody is happy.

Correction, everybody is happy but the people that relied on rakeback to be winning players. They go broke and work in construction. Darwinism at its best right here.
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Old 10-08-2005, 07:44 PM
Synergistic Explosions Synergistic Explosions is offline
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I would expect a move as big as this to have been announced to the London Stock Exchange.


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you would thinki so!

The stock may rally intitially-but really this just clarifies how bogus Party's Total Player numnbers were from the start.

PRTY is going to be cut in half with the next year to below 50. I also see major shareholder lawsuits coming.

Their player counts and estmates of growth have been bogus from the getgo.

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Could you explain that in more detail? Very interesting.
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