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Old 07-07-2005, 02:19 AM
harrypalmer harrypalmer is offline
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Default Re: Why dont you give away your money to poor people?

I don't give any of my poker winnings to the poor. I think have a better idea. Teach the poor to play poker.

Sounds logical.

"Give your bankroll to a poor person and they will eat for a day, teach them to play poker and they will eat for a lifetime."

Harry
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Old 07-07-2005, 03:59 AM
KaneKungFu123 KaneKungFu123 is offline
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Default Re: Why dont you give away your money to poor people?

you are a pretty big [censored].
here is a clue:

when i live in thailand, I am NOT taking advantage of their poverty. I am helping their economy by adding money to it... YOU [censored] [censored] 2BIT CLOWN.

btw... cry me a [censored] river about how poor you are....

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Because I am poor. No, I'm not homeless, and I have enough to eat, but that's because my mom works practically every single day, signing up to work her days off to make sure that my sister and I have a roof over our heads, food to eat, as well as a few luxuries (basic cable, internet access). Also, I am a college student (in-state, and I commute the half hour both ways to keep costs down) and my sister is starting an LPN program in the fall, having just graduated high school.

Why don't people on here brag about giving money to the poor? Aside from the fact that this is a poker forum and not philanthropy central, anyone who feels they deserve a pat on the back for helping others is a dick.

I, as I'm sure many/most here do, give money and assistance when I can. Be it an SPCA collection can at a counter, or the jar at my local pizza place taking money for a man who lost both his legs in a motorcycle accident and doesn't have health insurance. If I pay for something with a $20 and get $3 in change, that $3 goes in the jar/can/whatever.

You know why? Not because it makes me feel like a wonderful person, or because I'm looking for validation from some people on the internet. Because it's the right thing to do and there's no reason not to. But you know what? When my tuition bills come around or I have to put gas in the car so I can get to school, the cats at the animal shelter are going to have to go without my $3.

One thing I'm not going to do is run off to Thailand to take advantage of a nation's poverty and then chastise others for not doing the same.

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Old 07-07-2005, 04:31 AM
JKDStudent JKDStudent is offline
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Default Re: Why dont you give away your money to poor people?

Uh, no. You are taking advantage of their poverty. See, the country is poor. So when you move there so you can live for cheap, that is taking advantage of a situation. A situation caused by their poverty. Therefore...

And let's not get all bent out of shape simply because I poked a hole in your overinflated sense of self-worth. After all, you're helping an entire economy by buying the occassional sandwich. What could little old me possibly say to take that away from you?
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Old 07-07-2005, 04:55 AM
KaneKungFu123 KaneKungFu123 is offline
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Default Re: Why dont you give away your money to poor people?

You are 100% wrong.

1. You didnt a poke a hole in anything. If you werent such a walking cock you'd have read my other posts in this is thread where I clarify my position on the questions i asked in the original post. at no point did i say that i give my money to poor people. OOPS!! looks like you dont know wtf you are talking about. Sorry to [censored] up your entire stand there, cock master.

2. you obviously dont understand economics. i hope you are an art major or something, cause if not, your mom is working 7 days a week for nothing. why arent you paying your own way through poker? well, you probally suck at poker.

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Uh, no. You are taking advantage of their poverty. See, the country is poor. So when you move there so you can live for cheap, that is taking advantage of a situation. A situation caused by their poverty. Therefore...

And let's not get all bent out of shape simply because I poked a hole in your overinflated sense of self-worth. After all, you're helping an entire economy by buying the occassional sandwich. What could little old me possibly say to take that away from you?

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Old 07-07-2005, 05:02 AM
KaneKungFu123 KaneKungFu123 is offline
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Default Re: Why dont you give away your money to poor people?

So let me get this straight:

Thailand is poor because they are poor.

Nice Logic RETARD!!!!!!

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Uh, no. You are taking advantage of their poverty. See, the country is poor. So when you move there so you can live for cheap, that is taking advantage of a situation. A situation caused by their poverty. Therefore...

And let's not get all bent out of shape simply because I poked a hole in your overinflated sense of self-worth. After all, you're helping an entire economy by buying the occassional sandwich. What could little old me possibly say to take that away from you?

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Old 07-07-2005, 05:04 AM
KaneKungFu123 KaneKungFu123 is offline
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So let me get this straight:

Thailand is poor because they are poor.

Nice Logic RETARD!!!!!!

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Uh, no. You are taking advantage of their poverty. See, the country is poor. So when you move there so you can live for cheap, that is taking advantage of a situation. A situation caused by their poverty. Therefore...

And let's not get all bent out of shape simply because I poked a hole in your overinflated sense of self-worth. After all, you're helping an entire economy by buying the occassional sandwich. What could little old me possibly say to take that away from you?

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LMFAO..

The situation is that they are poor.

I am taking advantage of the situation.

The situation (them being poor) is caused by their poverty.


LOL....

get this poor bastard a can of retard coke.
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Old 07-07-2005, 06:29 AM
TimWillTell TimWillTell is offline
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KaneKungFu123, u don't seem like a nice guy, i don't think u care for the poor at all. I think u just hate everybody, rich and poor.
I'm quit sure u hate me too, even though u don't know me.
In time u will burry ur hate.
Read Diogenes, it will help u, u poor, poor man!
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Old 07-07-2005, 10:37 AM
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Default Re: Why dont you give away your money to poor people?

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Getting away from liberals and socialists who preach income redistribution, zero sum economics and government solutions will help them.

There will always be poor -- as long as there are liberals.

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It must be tough being that retarded.

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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but that is true. Maybe it makes you able to feel OK about yourself by voting a certain way or agreeing or disagreeing with certain political views.

This is the way it is in MA:
I used to work in a homeless shelter. I still work in the field of social services. The majority (the vast majority of longer term) homeless are on SSI or SSDI. They get a check in the neighborhood of $650.00 a month even if they have never worked before. If they have it goes up from there, but usually under a grand a month. They pay 0 for food and clothing and medical expenses (well maybe a $2-3 co-pay for drugs). They are allowed to live in shelters without doing anything to help themselves for the rest of their natural lives. All those homeless people you see begging for money: they are collecting social security checks.

In the shelters, they empty out on the 1st and 3rd of the month. This is because that is when their government checks come in. They go get motel rooms and booze and drugs. They come back a few days later after all their money is gone and repeat this cycle month after month.

They are eligible for housing subsidies. The ones who stay in shelters and on the streets for years do not want them because they would have to spend 200 of their 700 on rent and utilities (the way the subsidies work they pay 30% of their income towards housing and the taxpayers pay the rest-the same people who are paying for the government check in the first place). They don't want to spend any money on rent because it cuts into their booze and drug budget.

I have worked in this field for over 10 years so I know a few things about it.

They get free money for not working. Do you think this is teaching them to work? It is reinforcing them to not work.

The one's who go for the housing subisies are getting even more free government money (read taxpayer money).

$500/month in cash after they pay their 'portion' of rent and utilitis.

$500/month in the form of a housing subsidy. (this is my estimate, if your not familair with housing costs in MA it is about a grand or more for 1 bedrooms so the subsidy they get often contributes more than the 500 estimate I provided)

They get a 1 bedroom apartment. How many working poor can afford their own apartment? In MA this does not happen.

So that's a grand a month. Throw in free medical care.

I pay 100 a month for my medication co-pays and I have the most expensive medical plan my company offers. That plan costs me about $140 a month.

Maybe that is significanlty over the average but I'll use that as an estimate.

So on top of the grand add another $240 (in MA there is free insurance called mass health and also anyone who is poor gets 'free care' if they just apply for it at a public hospital)

$1240/month

Transportation?

Bus/Subway pass costs $71/month.

They get a pass (not all of them but many) that is good for 5 years and costs 5 bucks. They pay .35 and .25 for subway and bus with this pass. Another savings of $50

$1290/month and living in one's own apartment.

Food pantries: good for another $100/month

Food stamps: good for another $30/month

$1420/month

How much does someone have to earn pre tax to walk away with $1420? $1600? That's like $10 bucks an hour.

So they are making $10 bucks an hour to do whatever they please with their free time. watch tv, whatever.

You think they are going to go struggle to get a job at minimum wage when they get all that for free?

Who is in favor of the policies that dish out those entitlement programs? Liberals? Conservatives? Libertarians? Green Party? You?

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You must have been an AWESOME social worker dude! LOL, a social worker who thinks addicted or mentally ill people are just scamming the system, and that they ultimately prefer to be alone and constantly drunk and homeless.
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Old 07-07-2005, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: Why dont you give away your money to poor people?

Matthew 19: 21-23

But I do like nice cars and bikes.
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Old 07-07-2005, 11:35 AM
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You must have been an AWESOME social worker dude! LOL, a social worker who thinks addicted or mentally ill people are just scamming the system, and that they ultimately prefer to be alone and constantly drunk and homeless.

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I will give you the benefit of the doubt and consider you to be ignorant on the subject unless you care to engage in a rational discussion on the matter.

Do you have any particular knowledge on addictions, mental illness, and homelessness? What about economics? What about socio-economics?

I hope to hear back from you but I suspect you are not able to engage in a rational and informed discussion of the matter.
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