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a bargain and will really help your game 17 14.91%
good value, but some topics superficailly covered 38 33.33%
OK, but some of the advice is questionable 32 28.07%
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Old 05-07-2005, 01:16 AM
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Wilt > Shaq. And it's not close.

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I'm sorry, I forgot how many times you've seen Wilt play. You're certainly qualified.
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Old 05-07-2005, 01:20 AM
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Bird has no place on this thread.

If the question were "who made the most out of substandard physical ability?" Bird would be the clear winner. If it were "who was the best clutch performer in the history of the NBA?" Bird would be on the list.

Saying that Larry Bird is even among the best of all time is like saying that Kirk Gibson is among the best baseball players of all time.

Both had hearts like Secretariat, and both gave 190% every game, but neither were near the top performers of all time in their respective games.

At the Bird retirement thing at Boston Garden in '93, Magic took the microphone and said: “Larry, you only told me one lie. You said there will be another Larry Bird. Larry, there will never, ever be another Larry Bird.”

Bird's story and career were a lot like what would have happened if Rudy would have made it to the NFL. It's a great story that should never be forgotten. It makes you sad to see them go. You wish that your kids would get a chance to see someone with that little natural ability accomplish so much. It's like watching a retard win a Nobel prize. It makes you want to cry in embarassment with the knowledge that you've done so much less with so much more.

But to say Bird was the best is like saying that the retard is smarter than Newton.

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Um, Larry bird is widely regarded as the best power forward of all time. His accomplishments both overall and particularly when he was needed the most are impressive enough to land him in the top ten at least, if not top five.
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Old 05-07-2005, 01:36 AM
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The only choices that should be on this poll are MJ, Wilt, and Oscar Robertson. Having Kareem on your poll clearly makes it a joke.

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Old 05-07-2005, 01:51 AM
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Default Re: greatest player ever in the NBA?

if ever there was a thread that didnt deserve this many replaies, it's this one. this isnt close, people. there's nothing worth debating.
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Old 05-07-2005, 07:01 AM
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Bird has no place on this thread.

If the question were "who made the most out of substandard physical ability?" Bird would be the clear winner. If it were "who was the best clutch performer in the history of the NBA?" Bird would be on the list.

Saying that Larry Bird is even among the best of all time is like saying that Kirk Gibson is among the best baseball players of all time.

Both had hearts like Secretariat, and both gave 190% every game, but neither were near the top performers of all time in their respective games.

At the Bird retirement thing at Boston Garden in '93, Magic took the microphone and said: “Larry, you only told me one lie. You said there will be another Larry Bird. Larry, there will never, ever be another Larry Bird.”

Bird's story and career were a lot like what would have happened if Rudy would have made it to the NFL. It's a great story that should never be forgotten. It makes you sad to see them go. You wish that your kids would get a chance to see someone with that little natural ability accomplish so much. It's like watching a retard win a Nobel prize. It makes you want to cry in embarassment with the knowledge that you've done so much less with so much more.

But to say Bird was the best is like saying that the retard is smarter than Newton.

~D

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Um, Larry bird is widely regarded as the best power forward of all time. His accomplishments both overall and particularly when he was needed the most are impressive enough to land him in the top ten at least, if not top five.

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Small forward...
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Old 05-07-2005, 07:10 AM
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Woops, brainfart.
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Old 05-07-2005, 07:16 AM
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11 rings and he didn't make the list? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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...I know....pretty humorous, ain't it!!

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Old 05-07-2005, 07:42 AM
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Wilt > Shaq. And it's not close.

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You are only considering this because of Wilt's stats. The truth is, if the 2 were to play in the same era Shaq would have dominated as he looked down and said "Nice try small fry!"
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Old 05-07-2005, 08:01 AM
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Nevermind
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Old 05-07-2005, 08:16 AM
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Wilt > Shaq. And it's not close.

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You are only considering this because of Wilt's stats.

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This is a good point. A lot of Wilt's statistical dominance owes to the level of competition he faced, and conventions of the game which have died out since his time. There's also the fact that he was the most prolific shooter in the history of the NBA, averaging more than 32 shots per game in his first four seasons. He had over 2000 FG attempted in his first six seasons (1990 in his seventh). Shaq has never had more than 1700 in a season, and Jordan had only one season with more than 2000. Wilt's 3159 FGA in '62 is just as crazy as some of his other records. This is all while leading the league in free throws attempted as well.

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The truth is, if the 2 were to play in the same era Shaq would have dominated as he looked down and said "Nice try small fry!"

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This is just as silly as Dead's claim.
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