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Old 07-05-2005, 11:25 AM
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Or Sturtze starting for us. Imagine how desperate we would have to be for sturtze to be starting.

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or a guy named wang would be your ace
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Old 07-05-2005, 11:27 AM
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i will ask all the people around here with brand new red sox hats what they think should be done about the sox bullpen. i will make sure to ask them about possible moves that epstein could make before the deadline and who could be shuffled between the majors and the minors. also, they might have some ideas to shuffle up the roles for the people already in the bullpen. i will get back to everybody once i find out. these people are very knowledgeable so i should have some good ideas.
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Old 07-05-2005, 11:33 AM
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Or Sturtze starting for us. Imagine how desperate we would have to be for sturtze to be starting.

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or a guy named wang would be your ace

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dude, wang is awesome. we would be soooo [censored] if cano and wang had not worked out. btw, cano is hittin in the 290s (with a nice 315 OBP [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]) and is hammering the ball. both of them are very legit.
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Old 07-05-2005, 11:44 AM
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If Bellicheck were coaching the team, he would do it. Troy Brown as a defensive Back? Reactionary and silly.

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This analogy would only work if Schilling could close games while still remaining in the starting rotation.
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Old 07-05-2005, 01:05 PM
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Blowing games late will do more to ruin the psyche of a team than any other single thing. The Sox go no where if they don't solve this problem. The greater number of quality innings Schilling can provide as a starter is a moot point. Since the Sox appear to have enough pitching in the starting rotation to get them to the end of games, the last inning or innings are weighted with far more importance.

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ok, then why not make clement the closer?

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Because Clement is arguably the ace of the staff now. And Schilling is better suited to close because he has much better control and better sutied for the pressure.

And closing right now just might be better for Schilling and that rehabbed ankle.
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Old 07-05-2005, 01:20 PM
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Because Clement is arguably the ace of the staff now.

only because schilling is out.

And closing right now just might be better for Schilling and that rehabbed ankle.

or it could be worse.

imo, its a silly idea and thankfully i will never (at least this year) have to see it proven.
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Old 07-05-2005, 01:28 PM
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In the question of "who should be removed from the rotation when Schilling comes back" why is everyone thinking in terms of "what is best for the pen?"
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Old 07-05-2005, 02:14 PM
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Because the sox pen is rated last in the majors.
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Old 07-05-2005, 02:46 PM
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Because the sox pen is rated last in the majors.

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Which doesn't change the fact that the starting rotation is far more important.
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Old 07-05-2005, 03:10 PM
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Because the sox pen is rated last in the majors.

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Which doesn't change the fact that the starting rotation is far more important.

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yes it is. a trade off has to be made however. looking purely at stats, miller would be the choice as he seems to be the least effective starter, yet when you look deeper you see he has had control issues and has trouble getting 'loose'. clement is obviously not going, and wells isn't either. that leaves wakefield and arroyo, and for reasons previously stated arroyo seems to be the front runner.

again, this 'issue' may never come to fruition as schilling probably wont even start until after the AS break. a lot of things could change between now and then.
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