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#2
09-02-2004, 01:59 PM
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Re: My thinking
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Hey ZJ, sorry to take this thread down a notch in complexity, but if his CR was so small, what do you consider a "normal" sized CR in this case? [/ QUOTE ] On UB people LOVE to use the bet pot button. In this case, that would mean a check raise to about 1500. 
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#3
09-02-2004, 02:19 PM
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Re: My thinking
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On UB people LOVE to use the bet pot button. In this case, that would mean a check raise to about 1500. [/ QUOTE ] FWIW, on UB, raises/checkraises smaller than the Bet Pot button raise are typically much bigger hands. A minraise on the flop is a set such a huge percentage of the time it's sick.
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#4
09-02-2004, 11:39 AM
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Re: My thinking
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Especially in a 6 handed game, I still don't really see why this small check raise means I'm behind when so few hands beat me. [/ QUOTE ] you have to ask yourself what your opponent has and what he is going to put a lot of money in the pot with. your raise has little value because your opponent is not going to just pay you off with KQ or whatever here. well, maybe he will, but he certainly is not going to on the flop. in order to make money with one pair, you have to put him on a hand and play your hand accordingly. shoving your chips in and just sort of hoping he calls you with KQ is not the best way to do that. my read is he is very unlikely to check raise you with a flush draw after calling a big reraise preflop, so you can rule that out. he probably has something like a low(er) pocket pair and is hoping the K is a scare card for you. as such, very few free cards hurt you and I would basically call and let him bet into me on the turn and/or river if he wants. I hope my post doesn't come across as harsh. but I think when you get called by a good player on that flop your AK is most likely not the best hand. this is a generalization, but generally in NL backing your stack with one pair is not usually the greatest idea. so many times I've played a big pot in PL and been praying my opponent a) has TPTK b) is dumb enough to commit his stack with it. --turnipmonster
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#6
09-02-2004, 02:27 PM
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Re: My thinking
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I think I have been unclear. I do not like my play on the turn. [/ QUOTE ] last I checked there was no turn, and we were talking about the flop [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]. the whole point of my post is your flop reraise is terrible. you allow worse hands to get away easily and you allow better hands to bust you. you have little information about your opponents hand and he has a lot of information about yours, allowing him to not make a mistake. this is bad. having the probable best hand does not make betting and raising necessarily the best course of action, especially with an opponent who is essentially willing to bluff at you. my only other point is a side note about reraising preflop, which with AK is not always the best course of action, particularly if it is on the low end of your reraising standards. the reason being you will fold most hands that you want to play against (AQ and friends). --turnipmonster
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#7
09-02-2004, 02:44 PM
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Re: My thinking
I think hero is in a very tough spot if he just calls the raise here. If villain makes a pot size bet or pushes in on the turn, it makes it extremely difficult to call with just TPTK.
[ QUOTE ] you allow worse hands to get away easily and you allow better hands to bust you. [/ QUOTE ] I completely agree with this, but perhaps it's better to take down the pot right there, instead of giving villain a chance to make a move on us on the turn.
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