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Old 12-30-2005, 01:14 PM
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Id be surprised if there were many calling ranges that made not moving allin correct.
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Old 12-30-2005, 01:15 PM
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hmm, I ran it...if the guy is really totally insane and will call with 22+,A2s+,A3o+,KTs+,KJo+,QJs, then folding is probably reasonable (pushing would probably be reasonable too, +.1-.+2 or something). It's hard to put someone on that loose of a range though.
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Old 12-30-2005, 01:21 PM
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It's hard to put someone on that loose of a range though.

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Old 12-30-2005, 01:21 PM
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hmm, I ran it...if the guy is really totally insane and will call with 22+,A2s+,A3o+,KTs+,KJo+,QJs, then folding is probably reasonable (pushing would probably be reasonable too, +.1-.+2 or something). It's hard to put someone on that loose of a range though.

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I dunno, "very loose" for a 22 sounds like about exactly that range. At least, that's what it would take for me to bother writing a note to that effect in a 22. And any pair, any ace, any two broadway is not all that rare.

I'd need to have actually seen someone call that loose to not push here, though, because while it may not be rare, it's also, even in the 22s, far from typical.
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:08 PM
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hmm, I ran it...if the guy is really totally insane and will call with 22+,A2s+,A3o+,KTs+,KJo+,QJs, then folding is probably reasonable (pushing would probably be reasonable too, +.1-.+2 or something). It's hard to put someone on that loose of a range though.

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Pushing becomes a little clearer if you discount your fold EV for paying the big blind next hand.

If the table is passive I will sometimes raise to 500t and let it go if I get re-raised.(call the BB of course)
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:14 PM
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hmm, I ran it...if the guy is really totally insane and will call with 22+,A2s+,A3o+,KTs+,KJo+,QJs, then folding is probably reasonable (pushing would probably be reasonable too, +.1-.+2 or something). It's hard to put someone on that loose of a range though.

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Pushing becomes a little clearer if you discount your fold EV for paying the big blind next hand.

If the table is passive I will sometimes raise to 500t and let it go if I get re-raised.(call the BB of course)

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If this makes sense, if for some reason I was playing a 215, I'd push this. At a 22, you see more bigstacks making loose calls of pushes (this bigstack in particular) than pushing over a less than AI raise.

FWIW, I raised to 550, all folded to BB, who pushed. Of course I called, he had QJ, caught a Q.

Now the question is: did my less than AI raise tip him off that my hand was of medium strength or would he have called a push? I'm pretty sure he would have called a push but it is something to consider...
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