The last stand of the American Republic....

BCPVP · #1 12-30-2005, 05:10 AM

An interesting pro-tapping article from an unlikely source

#2 12-30-2005, 08:58 AM

Keep one thing in mind, the phone numbers were found in cofiscated computers, phones and other devices seized from terrorists.

Had the President NOT acted on the material obtained from terrorists and there WAS an attack that killed friends, family or other Americans would you be outraged that he didn't act?

"You cannot make a poor man rich by making a rich man poor"

#3 12-30-2005, 09:16 AM

"Please explain, in detail, how any of your civil rights have been violated. Note that I'm not talking about "our" civil rights. I'm talking about YOUR civil rights. What "right" did you have before Dubya's first term began that you do not have anymore?"

That is exactly how people in Mousilini's Italy thought. You should move to China so the rest of us can keep our freedom.

Warik · #4 12-30-2005, 09:38 AM

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That is exactly how people in Mousilini's Italy thought. You should move to China so the rest of us can keep our freedom.

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no no no. You are making a claim, so you are going to justify it. None of this "that's what so and so said in such and such country. Get out of America!"

You say your civil rights have been violated. Tell me how.

If you can't, then they haven't.

Exsubmariner · #5 12-30-2005, 09:50 AM

It's not the results, it's the intent that counts.

Only this is the first debate it sticks out to me that liberals are using that one to attack someone, not simply try to defend their actions.

#6 12-30-2005, 10:13 AM

Once they are being violated, then its too late.

I am going to pre-emptively keep it from happening.

If you live in Florida your right to vote for president was taken away. If you vote on a diebold machine, your right to vote does not exist.

Exsubmariner · #7 12-30-2005, 10:42 AM

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Once they are being violated, then its too late.

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So your rights haven't actually been violated? But you are sure that someone intends to violate them......sooooo......

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I am going to pre-emptively keep it from happening.

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The last Democrat I heard of who could premptively do anything was John F Kennedy. This would be quite the feat. Tell me, how are you going to preemptively keep it from happening. Do tell. This should be good.

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If you live in Florida your right to vote for president was taken away.

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By whom? And how? Election Fraud? Voter Intimidation? Please.

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If you vote on a diebold machine, your right to vote does not exist.

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Those same diebold machines elected Bill Clinton and no one said they were broken then.

#8 12-30-2005, 11:45 AM

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If you live in Florida your right to vote for president was taken away. If you vote on a diebold machine, your right to vote does not exist.

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For a third time I'll ask you for specific citation of credible proof beyond any doubt of yet another one of your ridiculous claims that persons' rights to vote for president have been stripped or denied. Specific proof.

And for a third time I suspect my query will go conveniently unanswered.

Warik · #9 12-30-2005, 11:37 AM

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It's not the results, it's the intent that counts.

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The intent is to stop terrorists from killing Americans.

Period.

Federal law enforcement agencies don't give a crap about the fight you're having with your girlfriend or the story your friend is telling you about the last time he was drunk.

Exsubmariner · #10 12-30-2005, 11:52 AM

And let us not forget, if the President had not pursued wire tapping on the numbers he got from #3 Al Queada mans laptop and the owner of one of those numbers had carried out an attack, there would be impeachment talk for not doing his job. So you are damned if you do, and damned if you don't. I do not envy the job.