($27) - KK line

11t · #1 12-29-2005, 01:59 PM

I was wondering what people thought about this line.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

CO (t1400)
Button (t1490)
Hero (t1450)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1680)
MP3 (t1480)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls t20, MP2 calls t20, MP3 calls t20, 1 fold, Button calls t20, Hero raises to t120, 1 fold, MP1 calls t100, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t100, Button calls t100.

Flop: (t520) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t520) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Button checks.

River: (t520) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets t250, MP1 folds, MP3 raises to t1360, Button folds, Hero calls t1080 (All-In).

Final Pot: t3210

Figured I am WA/WB on the flop and might as well try to give some other hands a chance to catch up.

UMTerp · #2 12-29-2005, 02:06 PM

Never mind every thing I just wrote... I thought the flop was AA4 - I'm going blind...

11t · #3 12-29-2005, 02:06 PM

Yah I know the river call is pretty awful

#4 12-29-2005, 02:08 PM

bet that flop like you own it... t300.

barring that, you have little to go on for the river situation... i don't hate the call, but it'd be easier to lay down if MP3 had called a flop bet.

UMTerp · #5 12-29-2005, 02:15 PM

You know, I think I'd take the same line whether the flop was AAA or AA4 actually.

Half to 2/3 on the flop, and fold to a raise. Fold to anything resembling significant turn action. Check the river, and pay off a bet up to about half the pot. I still don't like the river call, but it's obviously less bad on an AAA board than if there were only two aces out there.

durron597 · #6 12-29-2005, 02:31 PM

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What the [censored] dude, you have the second nuts, if a guy was able to slowplay his quads on the turn knowing that I have KK and will pay off with my stack then he is world champion. You than think about folding the river if you have like... 76o.

jmillerdls · #7 12-29-2005, 02:32 PM

Am I the only one that raises quite a bit more than this preflop?

11t · #8 12-29-2005, 02:35 PM

Yah that is why I called

yvesaint · #9 12-29-2005, 02:39 PM

you are going to get so much action from 22-QQ on that flop .....seriously that flop is beautiful. its more like WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWA/WB flop

Jbrochu · #10 12-29-2005, 02:40 PM

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What the [censored] dude, you have the second nuts, if a guy was able to slowplay his quads on the turn knowing that I have KK and will pay off with my stack then he is world champion.

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I've witnessed this same situation (flop AAA) 4 times, and only once did somebody show the case ace. The other three times two or more opponents got all-in with pocket pairs vs. a paired turn or river.

In this case many players saw the flop, so a laydown is possible, but in no way is it an easy decision.