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Old 12-29-2005, 12:53 PM
tripp0807 tripp0807 is offline
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Default Re: fire the third barrel?

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Can't you check-fold this river? I know you're getting good pot odds but it seems the only hand you beat is KQ, and many people could have folded that on the turn. I think you see a straight (TJ) or a flush.

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I'm not picking on you personally, but I think that this is yet another example of weak-tight play that is beginning to become commonplace on this forum.

First of all, if he had a straight, villian would have almost definitely moved in on the turn to knock out a flush draw.

Secondly, just because people at these levels play almost any two suited, it isn't necessarily true that every time the third flush card comes out that they have a made hand.

I can find a check-call here (NEVER a check-fold without a read), but I much prefer the way that OP played this hand. I think 90% of the time, you're winning (more often against KQ or QJ) or chopping (obviously less often). Even when you lose with this betting pattern, I think it's against 2 pair, like 89. If villian played a flush draw this way, oh well...put him on your buddy list because if he draws without odds, then you're going to make money off him more often than not.
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Old 12-29-2005, 01:59 PM
jhall23 jhall23 is offline
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Default Re: fire the third barrel?

I think betting this river is far far better then check/calling. If you are going to call anyway then you should just be the one betting. The main draws got there so he can't be induced to bluff. By letting him decide to bet or not you let him check behind with all sorts of mediocre hands that will call but let him get the money in if he hit. Basically if the action goes check-bet-call your are more likely to be behind then if it goes bet-call.
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