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Old 12-29-2005, 12:12 PM
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Yes UTG folds and there are no antes.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:21 PM
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Yes UTG folds and there are no antes.

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so you have to call 1600 into a pot of 4200. 2.6:1. Given your read it sounds like an easy call. you also state that this is a 13k tourny. is this a guaranteed 13k? or a 13k buyin? if it is small buyin, given your read on villain trying to make this move with any 2, then i may consider a push and hope for a race or better.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:31 PM
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nah its 13K grtd.
based on my read would pushing be a bad idea here ?
under what situions would pushing better than calling?
i assume i would have to call his all in bet after the flop as long as the flop has maybe just one over card?
in that case is pushing not more +EV based on my FE?
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:35 PM
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nah its 13K grtd.
based on my read would pushing be a bad idea here ?
under what situions would pushing better than calling?
i assume i would have to call his all in bet after the flop as long as the flop has maybe just one over card?
in that case is pushing not more +EV based on my FE?

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pushing is fine. you have him outstacked and I wouldnt count on any FE since he has already put in almost half his stack.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:41 PM
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reluts:
i pushed and he called and he had AA and they held up.
thanks for the advice.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: what would you do in this situation?

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pushing is fine.

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Really? I mean, I know our hero has a read, but villian just dumped half his stack into into a multi-way pot against a utg raiser. Is this really "any two" that often?
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Old 12-29-2005, 01:00 PM
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given the read, you have to trust it, otherwise whats the point of having reads. you are, after all trying to accumulate chips. given OP's read on villain, he could have been raising with KQ or K6 for that matter.

without the read, I call and re-evaluate after the flop.
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Old 12-29-2005, 01:50 PM
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given the read, you have to trust it, otherwise whats the point of having reads.

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Rockin,

I hear ya, but I would contend that hero's read is a little off and we should advise him accordingly. You cant evaluate a hand in a vacuum, but the circumstances of this hand must certainly be taken into consideration.

Hero's read might be that "villian is capable of stealing from the button", but is that whats happening in this hand, really?

If he did in fact make this move with "any two", he is not "smart" as the orignial poster describes. How do you reconcile that with the read?

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