Question about hand ranges & equity (calling vs. raising, yada yada)

#1 12-29-2005, 08:08 AM

I think you guys underestimate the strength of suited hands in SnG's.

For example (checked with SNGPT) if there are 6 players left, you are in CO, 1000 chip game. You have 1000 chips and the players behind you cover you and are pretty tight. (the details are not important here), you can push: Push hands: 22+,A2+,K7o+,K2s+,Q8o+,Q4s+,J8o+,J6s+,T8o+,T6s+,98 o,96s+,86s+,76s,65s (45%)

The range includes 65s! That means 65s is better than K6o.

Bigwig · #2 12-29-2005, 08:09 AM

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I think you guys underestimate the strength of suited hands in SnG's.

For example (checked with SNGPT) if there are 6 players left, you are in CO, 1000 chip game. You have 1000 chips and the players behind you cover you and are pretty tight. (the details are not important here), you can push: Push hands: 22+,A2+,K7o+,K2s+,Q8o+,Q4s+,J8o+,J6s+,T8o+,T6s+,98 o,96s+,86s+,76s,65s (45%)

The range includes 65s! That means 65s is better than K6o.

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Thank you, Don. Always helps when I'm not the only one saying it.

lorinda · #3 12-29-2005, 08:10 AM

The original poster specifically mentioned that we were talking about raises in general, not just pushes.

Lori

Bigwig · #4 12-29-2005, 08:13 AM

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The original poster specifically mentioned that we were talking about raises in general, not just pushes.

Lori

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Yes, but I think his point is applicable.

#5 12-29-2005, 10:59 AM

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The range includes 65s! That means 65s is better than K6o.

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Better at what? I'll take my K6o against your 65s heads up.

I think OP's point is that opponents' calling ranges affect the value of a hand. A point against which it seems hard to argue. (I know you weren't disagreeing with OP.)

#6 12-29-2005, 11:14 AM

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The range includes 65s! That means 65s is better than K6o.

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Better at what? I'll take my K6o against your 65s heads up.

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That's true, but my point is that suited connectors are surprisingly good compared to high cards with low kickers against people with calling ranges that are not extremely loose. I just thought that was surprising anyway. Never mind. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]