QJo vs TAG 3-bet on a Jh 9s 8h board

[danzasmack]

This is an easy pf raise.

I hate the fold. 3-betting is JT and 9T plenty of times. I definatly call down.

oh cool, I think this was me....wow, one of the hands I played in was posted...I'll need to check my hand histories when I get home to be sure as that i guess that it is quite possible I played in a hand that looked alot like this

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This is an easy pf raise.

I hate the fold. 3-betting is JT and 9T plenty of times. I definatly call down.

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You say that like it's a good thing. We've outlined that you'd be behind in those circumstances, not to mention forced into a two pair crying call if you hit your Q.

The outs vs. the money in the pot, you are missing the odds to call by .2, but it's a marginal situation that you are summing into an "easy call down.", without apparent reasoning to me.

[Dopey]

Its an easy call down because while we may be missing out on the odds by .2 when we are behind, we are ahead often enough to easily make up for it.

I agree with everyone who says raise pre and calldown and think it should be pretty close to standard.

And just for fun: Your SB Tag read means very little after 30 hands [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Dopey [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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Did they show down?

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SB showed down QJo, and BB had Tx.

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And just for fun: Your SB Tag read means very little after 30 hands

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True, but it's all I've got at this point, and with BB sticking around to play, I just couldn't see that I had the best hand at the moment. Obviously I was wrong, but had this been HU without BB, this would be an easy call down for me.

[Weatherhead03]

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SB is a TAG player while BB is TP PF

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Im sure its already been said but since your reads are that the SB and BB are fairly tight that gives you all the more reason to try and steal the blinds..although I wouldnt even look at there stats or reads with QJo on the button.