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Old 12-27-2005, 10:00 PM
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Waffle,

I'm pretty sure you can't run stove with a 12% range and a 16% range. The UTG 12 PFR isn't a 12 when raising UTG and the 16 PFR isn't a 16 when 3-betting that guy who isn't a 12 . Our equity is much lower than you show.

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Uh, that's not what I did. I attempted to make a best estimation of a 12 pfr's utg raising range and a best estimation of a 16 pfr's 3 betting range. Thanks for explaining the PFR term though.
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Old 12-27-2005, 10:17 PM
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Waffle,

I'm pretty sure you can't run stove with a 12% range and a 16% range. The UTG 12 PFR isn't a 12 when raising UTG and the 16 PFR isn't a 16 when 3-betting that guy who isn't a 12 . Our equity is much lower than you show.

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Uh, that's not what I did. I attempted to make a best estimation of a 12 pfr's utg raising range and a best estimation of a 16 pfr's 3 betting range. Thanks for explaining the PFR term though.

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Apologies, Waffle. I looked at the pocket pairs and thought you didn't discount much. I estimate the 12 to be about a 5 PFR when UTG, something like TT+, AJs+, AQo+, KQs.

Looks like there's also a bug in stove. If you manually enter a PFR of 3%, you will see it add in all the middle pairs but no AK or AQ hands.
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