Stars VIP = Cash???

[Rudbaeck]

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What I'd like to know is what the actual rake is for stars at various levels..

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It's low. Real low. It's for certain lowest of any medium or major site, and it might in most instances actually be the lowest period.

(Un)fortunately it's outside the EU, so for me it's a no-go. Which is good. You all move over there. Nothing to see at Party. Shoo! Get a Porsche!

[jba]

"It's low. Real low. It's for certain lowest of any medium or major site, and it might in most instances actually be the lowest period. "

well I guess I can take your word for it but...how do you know?

why can't you play there?

[MicroBob]

Stars is supposedly illegal in many European countries. Something to do with them not being based in Europe.

I guess it's similar to the crypto sites like littlewoods that won't accept Americans...or Bodog that won't accept Canadians.


However, I play with Europeans all the time on Stars.
players from England, Ireland, Sweden, France, Denmark and Germany seem to be all over the place there.

At the WSOP ME the guy sitting on my left was from Barcelona and he qualified for it on Stars.

And obviously many of the Stars players who qualify for the EPT events are from Europe too.


So I'm kind of confused on this issue...as I hear Stars is a no-go for many Europeans but then I see tons of Europeans on there.


Just looking at a few random limit tables on Stars I see players from:
Belgrade, Madrid, Oslo, Bergen, Ljublijana, Linkoping, Hamburg and Copenhagen.

[SomethingClever]

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Ljublijana

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DERB!!!!!!

[mbpoker]

>Stars is supposedly illegal in many European countries.

It's not to do with illegality, but with gaming wins taxable in Sweden if the site is outside of EU.

[imported_leader]

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"It's low. Real low. It's for certain lowest of any medium or major site, and it might in most instances actually be the lowest period. "

well I guess I can take your word for it but...how do you know?

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Check their rake structure. It's basically $1 for 20 2 for 40 and 3 for 70. Contrast to party which is 1 for 20 1.50 for 30 2 for 40 2.50 for 50 and 3 for 60. That adds up especially at 5/10 and below.

[MicroBob]

yes. the $0.50 increments make a big difference.

$31 pot on Party is raked $1.50
$39 pot on Stars is raked $1


At the 10/20 and 15/30 levels it's not going to really have an impact though. Almost all of your hands will be raked the max of $3 anyway.

[imported_leader]

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yes. the $0.50 increments make a big difference.

$31 pot on Party is raked $1.50
$39 pot on Stars is raked $1


At the 10/20 and 15/30 levels it's not going to really have an impact though. Almost all of your hands will be raked the max of $3 anyway.

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If I was playing 10/20 I would probably go for PP with ********, but since I'm not planning on being at 10/20 until late next year at the earliest, I'm making stars my primary site. I figure it's +EV over PP with unreliable and questionable extras.