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Old 12-27-2005, 12:32 PM
IHateCats IHateCats is offline
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Default Re: Interesting (?) observed hand, Party 2k

Just FYI, beringsea is very loose (40+ VPIP), not very aggressive, and is generally just bad. Which likely had quite a bit to do with how both players played the hand.
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Old 12-27-2005, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: Interesting (?) observed hand, Party 2k

duck would do this with a set, flush draw, 2 pair and maybe even 1 pair if she thinks villan is a puss. Very hard to guess the exact ahnd since range is so wide.
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Old 12-27-2005, 04:07 PM
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No decent player would ever call this bet with less than a set
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Old 12-27-2005, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: Interesting (?) observed hand, Party 2k

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No decent player would ever call this bet with less than a set

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You could call the allin with a good flush draw (AKs, Txs, A2s, A4s) if you felt like gambling.

I think it would be a pretty easy call with AA.
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Old 12-27-2005, 06:18 PM
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No decent player would ever call this bet with less than a set

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lol.
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Old 12-27-2005, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: Interesting (?) observed hand, Party 2k

I'm definitely calling with Tx[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Ax[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and obviously a set.
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:02 AM
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No decent player would ever call this bet with less than a set

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If duck makes this move with hands that have outs against a set (IE flush draw), i suspect that would mean her bet is hugely +EV.

Even if we extend the calling range to 2pair, it's pretty tough to make 2 pair on this flop given preflop action.

As for the results, as someone else in the thread who spilled the beans (thanks buddy), duck had Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and BadVooDoo called her down with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

The turn and river blanked and A high takes the ~5k pot. Afterwards duck mentioned that's exactly where she put him and didn't think he could call. He said her range there was huge. Maybe it is, (and it should be) if she's only going to get called by sets.

Pretty interesting I thought.

Additional Comments?

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Old 12-28-2005, 11:11 AM
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IMO, its a pretty easy call with A4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:16 AM
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yeah, fwiw, it is a pretyt easy call with A4s... I think it is tougher with just the nut flush draw and no additional outs. I think this just comes down to knowing your players better... in general given the action and what I knew of the guy in the middle, I thought this play was +EV (but it might not have been if his calling range extended to all overpairs) but badvoodoo knew me and outthought me and that's that... it's just a read based thing in general and with at least 12 nut outs, it's definitely an insta call.
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:22 AM
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i think this was discussed in another thread, but when calling an all in from a player whose range consists of set + draws (including some sketchy draws), it is clearly much better to have a draw than an overpair.
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