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Am I a moron on this hand
Hi all,
I've been lurking on here for a while and finally got the stones to post. I'm just starting on Omaha and I am curious if I played this wrong or not. Thanks. PokerStars Game #3439642616: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/12/26 - 11:44:11 (ET) Table 'Siegma' Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: bofuj ($25 in chips) Seat 2: Gammastyle ($25 in chips) Seat 3: SAIIDNOB ($12.75 in chips) Seat 4: TrueOrange ($19.50 in chips) Seat 5: Tim990 ($15.05 in chips) Seat 7: fedu ($24.50 in chips) Seat 8: MephDXA21 ($19.30 in chips) Seat 9: Nubs123 ($24.50 in chips) TrueOrange: posts small blind $0.10 Tim990: posts big blind $0.25 5thStreak: sits out bofuj: posts big blind $0.25 Gammastyle: posts big blind $0.25 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Gammastyle [Kd 8h As Td] fedu: calls $0.25 MephDXA21: calls $0.25 Nubs123: calls $0.25 bofuj: checks Gammastyle: checks SAIIDNOB: calls $0.25 TrueOrange: calls $0.15 Tim990: checks *** FLOP *** [Jd Jc Qd] TrueOrange: checks Tim990: checks fedu: checks MephDXA21: checks Nubs123: checks bofuj: checks Gammastyle: bets $1 SAIIDNOB: folds TrueOrange: calls $1 Tim990: folds fedu: folds MephDXA21: folds Nubs123: folds bofuj: folds *** TURN *** [Jd Jc Qd] [Ad] TrueOrange: checks Gammastyle: bets $1 TrueOrange: raises $2.75 to $3.75 Gammastyle: raises $2.75 to $6.50 TrueOrange: raises $11.75 to $18.25 and is all-in Gammastyle: calls $11.75 *** RIVER *** [Jd Jc Qd Ad] [Js] *** SHOW DOWN *** TrueOrange: shows [9h Qc 3c Jh] (four of a kind, Jacks) Gammastyle: shows [Kd 8h As Td] (a Royal Flush) Gammastyle collected $38.50 from pot Gammastyle said, "lol" Nubs123 leaves the table *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $40.50 | Rake $2 Board [Jd Jc Qd Ad Js] Seat 1: bofuj folded on the Flop Seat 2: Gammastyle showed [Kd 8h As Td] and won ($38.50) with a Royal Flush Seat 3: SAIIDNOB (button) folded on the Flop Seat 4: TrueOrange (small blind) showed [9h Qc 3c Jh] and lost with four of a kind, Jacks Seat 5: Tim990 (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 7: fedu folded on the Flop Seat 8: MephDXA21 folded on the Flop Seat 9: Nubs123 folded on the Flop |
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Re: Am I a moron on this hand
Looks good to me, buddy. Your primary consideration when drawing to a str8 flush vs. a board pair is, "what are my implied odds?" If you're getting 1:20, go for it.
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Re: Am I a moron on this hand
I don't see why you would be a moron in this hand. You made a nice bet on the flop, but be aware that if you are called chances are you are possibly being trapped, and that even if you do pull the straight or flush on the turn it may not be good. In other words, be prepared to fold. Just so happens though that you catch the perfect card on the turn. You weren't the moron - the guy who flopped the nut full house was by not checkraising you on the flop was. If he comes over the top on the flop, you must know you're beat and you'd fold. He won't win that big of a pot, but he also won't get trapped into getting his entire $18.25 in on the turn when he's drawing dead.
In short, i'd probably bet the flop as well, but would freeze up if called. If you do pull the royal, then just HOPE the guy was trying to trap you [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Enjoy. EDIT: I originally said "wouldn't be a moron" in my first sentence. That has been changed [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]. |
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Re: Am I a moron on this hand
Is betting on this type of flop a standard line for you? I would stray from bluffing too much on paired flops with a flush draw as you are usually going to get trapped far too much at this limit
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Re: Am I a moron on this hand
Every decision after the turn is easy. It is just a matter of making sure that you get maximum value for your unbeatable hand.
Your flop play is the only thing worth discussing. In general, most of your straight flush draws are not going to get there. There is no problem trying to pick up a small pot with a position bluff, but realize that if the villian had check/raised the pot, you would have had to throw your hand away. When you have high card paired flops like these, someone is almost always going to have the nuts and could be trapping. You may be better off taking the free card rather than betting yourself off the draw. If you hit your one miracle out and someone has the nut full on the turn, you are going to get their stack, even if the pot was small going to the turn. |
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Re: Am I a moron on this hand
Unless heads up, I wouldn't want to put too many bets out on a paired board despite your monster draw.
Like the previous poster said, it's not bad trying to take a stab in position, but there were so many callers. Slider |
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