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#1
12-26-2005, 12:43 AM
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Re: Curtains: screw the 10 BB \'rule\'
I push here as well. My reasons:
1) It keeps me out of trouble. 2) You get called by worse aces more than you'd think. Some people just can't believe that you'd push a hand as strong as AQ or AK. The most overused phrase on this forum has to be, "you'll only get called by a better hand." I call BS on that one. 
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#2
12-26-2005, 12:49 AM
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Re: Curtains: screw the 10 BB \'rule\'
[ QUOTE ]
I push here as well. My reasons: 1) It keeps me out of trouble. 2) You get called by worse aces more than you'd think. Some people just can't believe that you'd push a hand as strong as AQ or AK. The most overused phrase on this forum has to be, "you'll only get called by a better hand." I call BS on that one. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with both your points. My main question was about the POINT of the raise. Isn't the main POINT - as you said - to keep you out of trouble with the added benefit of buying a couple blinds... If the main point is blind buying...then I don't get it...
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#3
12-26-2005, 12:52 AM
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Re: Curtains: screw the 10 BB \'rule\'
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[ QUOTE ] I push here as well. My reasons: 1) It keeps me out of trouble. 2) You get called by worse aces more than you'd think. Some people just can't believe that you'd push a hand as strong as AQ or AK. The most overused phrase on this forum has to be, "you'll only get called by a better hand." I call BS on that one. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with both your points. My main question was about the POINT of the raise. Isn't the main POINT - as you said - to keep you out of trouble with the added benefit of buying a couple blinds... If the main point is blind buying...then I don't get it... [/ QUOTE ] Why not? What's wrong with killing a fly with a howitzer? I've got the best hand, if they don't want me buying their blinds, they're gonna have to risk all their chips.
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#4
12-26-2005, 12:57 AM
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Re: Curtains: screw the 10 BB \'rule\'
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I push here as well. My reasons: 1) It keeps me out of trouble. 2) You get called by worse aces more than you'd think. Some people just can't believe that you'd push a hand as strong as AQ or AK. The most overused phrase on this forum has to be, "you'll only get called by a better hand." I call BS on that one. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with both your points. My main question was about the POINT of the raise. Isn't the main POINT - as you said - to keep you out of trouble with the added benefit of buying a couple blinds... If the main point is blind buying...then I don't get it... [/ QUOTE ] Why not? What's wrong with killing a fly with a howitzer? I've got the best hand, if they don't want me buying their blinds, they're gonna have to risk all their chips. [/ QUOTE ] Well you're 10x as good as me...so I don't know what I can do other than agree and start playing it this way... for my heads sake though - can't you just kill this fly with a fly-swatter and get out of the way to an AI re-raise? ....or is that a leak? Also I was gonna ask if one of my problems with this is the structure difference between PP and PS. Since I play on PS and start with T1500 chips, I don't value the 50/100 level blind stealing as high as you PP players might? If I factor that in - then I'm with ya 100%.
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#5
12-26-2005, 01:03 AM
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Re: Curtains: screw the 10 BB \'rule\'
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Well you're 10x as good as me...so I don't know what I can do other than agree and start playing it this way... [/ QUOTE ] Ha, you know you're responding to 45suited, not Curtains, right? I wouldn't claim to be 10x better than anyone. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [ QUOTE ] for my heads sake though - can't you just kill this fly with a fly-swatter and get out of the way to an AI re-raise? ....or is that a leak? [/ QUOTE ] My take: how are you gonna fold to an AI re-raise from an unknown? What if the guy's got 88 and he views your standard raise as a button steal? No way would I fold to a re-raise, for that reason. I just push here, but if you want explanations from a smart guy, ask Curtains, not 45suited. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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#6
12-26-2005, 01:15 AM
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Re: Curtains: screw the 10 BB \'rule\'
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Well you're 10x as good as me...so I don't know what I can do other than agree and start playing it this way... [/ QUOTE ] Ha, you know you're responding to 45suited, not Curtains, right? I wouldn't claim to be 10x better than anyone. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [ QUOTE ] for my heads sake though - can't you just kill this fly with a fly-swatter and get out of the way to an AI re-raise? ....or is that a leak? [/ QUOTE ] My take: how are you gonna fold to an AI re-raise from an unknown? What if the guy's got 88 and he views your standard raise as a button steal? No way would I fold to a re-raise, for that reason. I just push here, but if you want explanations from a smart guy, ask Curtains, not 45suited. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I think perhaps you are underestimting my suckiness, sir. ...but for your sake, we'll reduce it to 3x as good. Coolio? I don't play a crapload...so I can always hope I've just been running cold and that it just takes me more physical time to play through the these streaks 'cuz of my low volume. Anyways... I wasn't saying I WOULD fold to an AI...just saying I like giving myself the CHANCE too.... Would you standard raise if the blinds were classicaly weak-tight? Also - you're probably right about the reduced steal ranges against a button raiser... I need to think of that stuff more often in those spots... Then again...if I push there more often, I wouldn't have those spots in the first place, so...yeah...
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#7
12-26-2005, 01:40 AM
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Re: Curtains: screw the 10 BB \'rule\'
I've started pushing in situations like this as well for reasons that sofere describes. Situations like this when blinds are getting high and I standard raise and then the flop misses me always cause me problems. You may even luck out and get called by AJ (or any ace rag at the lower levels) or KQ. People really love to defend their blinds with ace rag. I see it so frequently.
Do you fold if you standard raise and they re-raise you all-in? If not you may as well push it right?
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#8
12-26-2005, 09:16 AM
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Re: Curtains: screw the 10 BB \'rule\'
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2) You get called by worse aces more than you'd think. Some people just can't believe that you'd push a hand as strong as AQ or AK. The most overused phrase on this forum has to be, "you'll only get called by a better hand." I call BS on that one. [/ QUOTE ]
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