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Re: Face up muck?
Here Player B's hand is live under most cash game rulebooks. It appears he didn't release his hand - even Player A stated that he merely tabled his hand.
BUT..... .......this sort of thing can evolve beyond gamesmenship into really unseemly angleshooting that IMHO isn't good for the growth of the game. Example: Novice Player A bets, Player B turns his hand face up with just a little bit of forward motion. "Little bit" is a judgement call, perhaps a matter of opinion, the real story depends on what people saw and so on. Novice Player A in good faith believed Player B is folding - perhaps he tosses his hand away, maybe breathes a sigh of relief because he was bluffing, shows his hand thinking it was uncalled and he has a winner. If you play no limit you see this sort of thing quite often. Now Player B calls. We have a dispute and someone (perhaps the whole table) is not going to be happy. Why is allowing this good for the game? OR.... ..... would a rule saying, "when facing a bet either turning your hand face up or pushing it torward the muck will (may?) result in a dead hand" be better? ~ Rick |
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Re: Face up muck?
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Why is allowing this good for the game? OR.... ..... would a rule saying, "when facing a bet either turning your hand face up or pushing it torward the muck will (may?) result in a dead hand" be better? ~ Rick [/ QUOTE ] It adds another demension of play, it is interesting and calls for a "rush" in emotions. All of which are good for the game. Sure it can be used for angle shooting. Most of the dealers at the room I play the most at will ask the person opening their hand if they are folding or reach to muck the hand. It becomes very clear, very quickly if the intent is to open fold, or simply open the hand. It is rare that such a thing would happen without a big call needed and most people are going to protect their hand in a situation like this. I personally would not be too happy if the rules changed making my opened hand dead/mucked. It is a tool. A tool that I do not used often, but when I have, I can honestly say it has made/saved me lots of money. |
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