Is this collusion or just bad play?

Stealthy · #1 12-23-2005, 08:52 PM

I am watching this table now and they are DEFINATELY colluding it is so obvious as an outsider. They both have a healthy profit and keep folding for 1 bet on the end once everyone else is forced out.

jba · #2 12-23-2005, 08:58 PM

did you email support yet??

Stealthy · #3 12-23-2005, 09:05 PM

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I emailed info@party......

I suppose they will send it to where it has to go.

I just joined the table they were at and told the other players what was happeneing as it was so obvious to watch. One colluder left immediately and the other one played just long enough to deny it all as he was "from Italy so how could he be colluding"!!

TomBrooks · #4 12-24-2005, 05:46 AM

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Does Party reveal the results of their investigation to the person who makes a complaint? I'd be curious to know what they say.

Stealthy · #5 12-24-2005, 12:54 PM

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Yes I think that they do. I got an automated reply saying they were investigating and would let me know the results in the next 48 hours. Given that it is Christmas maybe it will be a little longer though.

StellarWind · #6 12-24-2005, 04:00 PM

For collusion, disconnect abuse, abusive players, etc. the better address is alerts@partypoker.com.

Same for X-Party: alerts@yourskin.com.

oxymoron · #7 12-27-2005, 05:34 PM

Any updates on these two?

oxymoron · #8 12-23-2005, 09:05 PM

Interesting...I'm gonna check my database at home and see if I have any mined hands from these two. I hope their accounts are frozen and all the people they have stolen money from are entered into a huge tournament for their money.

Stealthy · #9 12-23-2005, 09:09 PM

I only finished 6BB down at the table I was at with them mostly cause I was cold-decked but had a couple of biggish pots but I am still well pissed cause likelyhood is I would have finished a few $s up instead.

Not sure if joining the table to warn others was the right thing to do or not. Sure broke the table up fast though!

mxer7734 · #10 12-23-2005, 09:14 PM

I have seen this a lot lately at 1/2 6-max. I know most of the times its just coincedence but other times its obvious they are colluding. The last time this happened I had two guys on my table both had almost exact stats (80/30) coincedentally both lost their asses as I had a very good run of cards and their plans backfired. The exact same would happen as did to you, the first would bet the second would raise forcing out other opponenets and the first bettor would always fold.

One hand I had AA and both were in the hand capped preflop the flop came 789 first guy bet I raised his partner 3-bet other guy capped (hoping I would fold but I was going nowhere with AA) next card was an ugly 9 first guy bet I called next guy raised last guy capped I called poorly but considering the opponents there was a large chance I was still ahead. Last card miracle A first guy bet I raised last guy 3-bet his partner capped I call of course the guy who 3-bet folded and other guy called with K7 (this just shows what happened almost the whole session) I raked in a nice 30BB pot and was perfectly fine with them at my table.

I didnt want to say anything to party because it was benefiting me but I still dont think it should be aloud. Next time it happens I am going to have to drop an email off to Party support.