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Old 12-22-2005, 07:21 PM
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I don't have a comment about the actual hand, but I was wondering where all these posts come from? I've seen a lot of Curtain's hand posts but I must have missed how they started. Can someone fill me in?
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Old 12-22-2005, 07:26 PM
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Curtains made a post stating he wanted to send HH's out and have people pick and post hands from them. Understandably many people quickly responded they wanted to do this.

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Old 12-22-2005, 11:12 PM
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I think folding is terrible btw. You can't fold 66 PF with only 18x the BB in a headsup blind battle. It's possible I should raise larger to begin with, such as 250 or so, because Im not all that interested in encouraging him to reraise with KQ (Although I am interesting in him reraising with A5s and such)....and that my original raise to 125 was a mistake. But raising to 125 and folding is just terrible here.
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Old 12-22-2005, 11:37 PM
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Wow, I'm out of it. I orginally thought that this was level two and didn't see the comment that the villain was an extreme lag. Against a LAG I think that this is a fairly straightforward call, but I think that many other opponents will only push here with a hand range that crushes 66.
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Old 12-23-2005, 01:37 AM
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Even if its not a LAG, you cant make a plan that involves folding 66 headsup with 18x the BB. Do you realize the K+S number for 66 is something like 57x the BB. You must play this hand in a fashion that doesn't allow you to fold no matter what, and I believe this is true against all opponents.

You just dont know when someone is going to get fancy with QTs, A5s, 44 etc etc
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Old 12-23-2005, 01:59 AM
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I was just being stupid and thinking that sometimes I would lay it down with these stacks in level two. In the actual hand I agree that you shouldn't be laying down 66 with 18bb.

You should get on AIM more often
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:03 AM
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Do you realize the K+S number for 66 is something like 57x the BB.

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WooT?
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:19 AM
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Even if its not a LAG, you cant make a plan that involves folding 66 headsup with 18x the BB. Do you realize the K+S number for 66 is something like 57x the BB. You must play this hand in a fashion that doesn't allow you to fold no matter what, and I believe this is true against all opponents.

You just dont know when someone is going to get fancy with QTs, A5s, 44 etc etc

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I think I disagree with your thinking here Curtains. The K&S number just shows that it is more profitable to push than to open fold here. But it says nothing about when you are played back at like you were. You need to re-evaluate after it gets back to you. Against certain opponents, a fold here to the push would surely be correct.
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:22 AM
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The K+S number is just too high compared to the money in play and most people's ranges will be too loose in a headsup battle like this. Im not saying that there arent a select number of people in which folding may be correct, but they are pretty rare IMO.
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Old 12-23-2005, 10:03 AM
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Even if its not a LAG, you cant make a plan that involves folding 66 headsup with 18x the BB. Do you realize the K+S number for 66 is something like 57x the BB.

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What's a K+S number?
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