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Old 12-22-2005, 04:59 PM
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Peter, you are really losing your grip. You place 600,000 dead versus the millions enslaved and who also often were treated harshly or killed at the whim of their owners. You posit that an agricultural society is morally superior (WTF?). And you attribute the rise of the KKK which oppressed and lynched blacks as an evil worse than the enslavement of those black slaves. All this shows that your value system and anlystical skills are in need of adjustment.

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Obviously his argument is a poor one...

Still, can you defend the "two wrongs make a right" case? That being mass enslavement (and, of course, death) through consciption, as a means of abolishing the other people's enslavement.

Again, I don't seem to understand why you think America is different than other places in the world, where slavery ended peacefully. It merely requires a paradigm shift (and even a minor one is likely to end such an egregious practice).
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Old 12-22-2005, 06:32 PM
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Conscription is no less valid an action for a nation to take in this example than if it were under attack from another. The federal government was protecting its black citizens.

And as I have said before, only if seccession had not happened was there a reasonable chance of slavery being abolished. With the South left to itself, there was no reasonable such expectation because of the political dominance of the slave owning aristocracy and the likelihood that even poorer non-slave owning southerners would not relish the prospect of so many blacks being freed (KKK after the war shows this).
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