Party $20+2: AKs first hand - Do we gamble?

[xJMPx]

I think he's talking specifically about the limp-push line taken here by the villain. But I've seen it often enough by mid-pairs to say it's probably not AA/KK 80%.

As for this hand, I dunno...with your line I think I would go ahead and call after committing 1/4 of my stack. However, I think there could be an argument to just limping with all the preflop limps infront and play this as a drawing hand.

Very big possibility that I'm bias. That's why i edited my post to ask for the same data you are asking for. Also, let me restate that I normally call here....

[LesJ]

Just random observation here, but tonight in the 11s I saw two players all-in preflop. There hands were KQs and J5o respectively. J5o won the hand, of course, but donked off all their chips before level one was even over.
Les

I play the 11s, but I call, I see so many mid/low pairs, and crap like AJ, doing this that I don't hesitate to call this.

Will

[RobGW]

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The question I ask is, do we call this 100% of the time?

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Yes. You are getting 2:1 odds with AKs. You'll win far more often that that. Folding this is clearly -EV especially in the $22 where BB could be pushing any decent hand. He'd have to show me AA or KK before I folded this. Besides, you want to fold here and be essentially starting the tourney with $600?

Complete in the SB and play for flush value.

[caretaker1]

In my experience, in the face of this large size of reraise and the fact that you have an A and K in your hand makes it a lot less likely than 40% that villain has KK or AA. That said, I'd pop this will a smaller raise, maybe 100-120. This will still shake loose some players, however it allows you to more easily get away from a situation like this. Otherwise, if you want to raise so much that you would feel you'd have to call any re-raise due to pot odds anyway, why not just pop it all-in here and give yourself the best chance to snag the 120 without a fight?

$.02

[Nick M]

all i know is I never raise from the blinds facing that many limpers with anything other than AA KK or QQ.

[mlagoo]

not sure about your initial raise, i probably make it like 120-150 there, but once BB pushes, I'm calling. to whoever talked [censored] above about not taking a coinflip -- even if this was a coinflip, taking a coinflip while being laid very good odds is playing intelligent poker, not gambling (at least not in the long run).

[adanthar]

Stop raising 1/4 of your stack and you won't have this problem. Also, there's nothing wrong with raising AKs knowing you will get three callers. If you don't know what to do when you miss, quit poker; if you don't know what to do when you hit, only playing some more will teach you. So basically, make it t75 or maybe 100, then, like, make up your mind what to do from there (hint: if KK pushed, you'd still call.)