Ed Miller be damned, I'm folding (5/10)

thesharpie · #1 12-21-2005, 03:18 AM

I'd check/raise the flop. And the pot really isn't that big at the river, you're getting ~9.6 to 1 at best, although I think the best you can hope for is 4.8 to 1 once in awhile.

MicroBob · #2 12-21-2005, 05:01 AM

I don't see how such ridiculously high flop and turn ag's can makes him 'ABC'.

I doubt you can be ahead or split here....just pointing out that he is REALLY hyper-ag on flop and turn streets (and surprisingly tame on the river).

gildwulf · #3 12-21-2005, 05:03 AM

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I'd check/raise the flop. And the pot really isn't that big at the river, you're getting ~9.6 to 1 at best, although I think the best you can hope for is 4.8 to 1 once in awhile.

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What does check-raising the flop accomplish?

beachbum · #4 12-21-2005, 06:18 AM

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What does check-raising the flop accomplish?

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It traps the button. I would have mindlessly led the flop, but when I read about the c/r, I like it. Since he still has the initiative, let him lead. I think you're ahead on this flop a ton against someone who raises 20% of their hands.

Redd · #5 12-21-2005, 01:09 PM

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I'd check/raise the flop. And the pot really isn't that big at the river, you're getting ~9.6 to 1 at best, although I think the best you can hope for is 4.8 to 1 once in awhile.

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What does check-raising the flop accomplish?

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What does leading the flop accomplish? You'll get him to fold a 2-outer and raise a dominating hand.

gildwulf · #6 12-21-2005, 01:12 PM

Is he folding JJ here for one bet in a 13-bet pot?

Redd · #7 12-21-2005, 01:16 PM

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Is he folding JJ here for one bet in a 13-bet pot?

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It wouldn't surprise me. Don't forget he's paying 5 of those bets for a showdown with almost no chance to improve. But why give him the opportunity to fold? Even if he'll almost always call JJ, he's always always going to bet it.