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Old 12-20-2005, 10:00 PM
BatsShadow BatsShadow is offline
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I'm not folding that turn in hand 1, I just picked up outs.

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outs?
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:09 PM
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I'm not folding that turn in hand 1, I just picked up outs.

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outs?

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I think he's saying that if the button is betting a diamond flush, the turn gives you outs to a FH.
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:09 PM
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Against a flopped flush, set, 2 pr, whatever you think he has that's beating you on the turn. If hes got a K, well it happens. And there's still the chance that you've got him beat and he's donking off his stack.
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:13 PM
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The raise on the flop had me leaning toward a K in his hand.
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:18 PM
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The raise on the flop had me leaning toward a K in his hand.

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Why? That's a pretty narrow group of holdings. If you think you are way behind, and are playing the hand that way, why not C/C down? You lead the river with the 2nd nuts and got raised. If your read is that he's got a K, why call the river raise, nevermind the 3 bet/cap scenario?
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:21 PM
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Obviously, the river changed my mind slightly. I kind of started thinking more of value raises...I may be behind, but likely I'm not. Is that really bad thinking?
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:27 PM
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No, I don't think so. I think you played it fine. And you have to be able to re-evaluate your hand strength as the hand progresses.

Honestly I didn't review your hand street by street, I looked at the whole thing then started thinking. That's not a fair analysis, and I apologize for that. I think there is a difference in looking at it as a whole in a vacuum, and correlating that to how the hand plays at live-speed. I'd probably have capped the river as well.
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:38 PM
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Thanks for the vote of confidence.
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Old 12-20-2005, 11:51 PM
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The raise on the flop had me leaning toward a K in his hand.

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Then why didn't you RR? RR on the flop or betting out on the turn would have given you a much better idea of what he was holding. Your check on the turn could induce a bet from any holding.
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:16 AM
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hand 1 = nh

hand 2 = nh
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