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Old 12-20-2005, 03:38 PM
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Default Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?

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Would no one go for a check-raise on the flop? Betting out gives everyone 11:1 to call. Chances are you are ahead, but you are vulnerable to at least 4 overcards and spades on the turn, so isn't it worth the risk of having it checked through?

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It's not usually a good plan to raise preflop from the big blind and check on a harmless flop. This is a value bet and we'd like to protect our hand against things like K8 or even QJ. A BB raise shows extreme strength and a player with QJ will likely believe they have less than 6 outs (which they would if we had AQ/AJ/KQ/KJ/AA-JJ/99 which are all in our range) and will often fold especially when not closing the action.
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Old 12-20-2005, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?

He makes the assumption that in such a loose game, betting will not protect your hand from QJ and K10 hands. I think I might agree with that assumption, and say a check-raise might be a smart play.
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Old 12-20-2005, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?

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He makes the assumption that in such a loose game, betting will not protect your hand from QJ and K10 hands. I think I might agree with that assumption, and say a check-raise might be a smart play.

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I think this argument is flawed. We're raising preflop because of a slight equity edge. On the flop our equity has usually skyrocketed and now we just want to check. What happens when it checks through because everyone is afraid of your monster hand? How much value do you give up letting flushes, gutshots, and overs draw for free? How are you going to make up for the money you left on the table?

If you want everyone to fold on the flop or draw incorrectly then check preflop instead of raising and face them with a 5:1 bet.
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Old 12-20-2005, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: I raise A9s on BB with 3 limpers. Correct?

Ok I am convinced the BB raise with A9s was wrong. The rest of the hand I played okay I think.

Even they river fold in my eyes is sooo obvious.

Thanks for comments every1.
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