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12-19-2005, 09:17 PM
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Re: The disgraceful right-wing distortion on the domestic spying issue
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Here is the main question that I have. Did G.W. spy on John Kerry and his staff during the election? [/ QUOTE ] If he did he must have been overjoyed at the fact that Kerry's campaign was so poorly run and incompetent in crafting a winning message. But then again, that was obvious to all so there was no need to spy. There's your answer. 
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12-19-2005, 09:26 PM
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Re: The disgraceful right-wing distortion on the domestic spying issue
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[ QUOTE ] Here is the main question that I have. Did G.W. spy on John Kerry and his staff during the election? [/ QUOTE ] If he did he must have been overjoyed at the fact that Kerry's campaign was so poorly run and incompetent in crafting a winning message. But then again, that was obvious to all so there was no need to spy. There's your answer. [/ QUOTE ] I didn't ask if there was a need! I'm asking if he did!
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12-19-2005, 09:27 PM
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Re: The disgraceful right-wing distortion on the domestic spying issue
Sorry, it's classified.
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12-19-2005, 09:30 PM
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Re: The disgraceful right-wing distortion on the domestic spying issue
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Sorry, it's classified. [/ QUOTE ] I don't care if it does stay classified. Do you have a problem if the Senate looks into this issue?
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12-19-2005, 11:34 PM
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Re: The disgraceful right-wing distortion on the domestic spying issue
I have no problem if they do so in closed session so as not to expose our intelligence gathering capabilities. But I do have a problem if they seek to prevent what the president has authorized since it would hamper our ability to track those foreigners in American who seek to commit or aid terroristic acts, which has of course been shown to happen.
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12-19-2005, 11:53 PM
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Re: The disgraceful right-wing distortion on the domestic spying issue
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I have no problem if they do so in closed session so as not to expose our intelligence gathering capabilities. But I do have a problem if they seek to prevent what the president has authorized since it would hamper our ability to track those foreigners in American who seek to commit or aid terroristic acts, which has of course been shown to happen. [/ QUOTE ] I don't have a problem with the wire tapping. There is a system in place where a wire tap can be placed and within 72 hours they would have to get this approved by a secret court. These aren't exact numbers but I'v heard there have been something like 12000 wire taps since 1980 and the court has turned down like 9. Here is where my problem is. Why did the president order wiretaps then never take it in front of the secret court? Is there something to hide? Would the court have disallow these wire taps? Were they spying on foes of the Bush admin? ect. ect. Did Bush go to far this time?
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12-20-2005, 12:02 AM
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Re: The disgraceful right-wing distortion on the domestic spying issue
If you google for and read some more in depth on this issue, you will find that although it is true that the secret court is fairly speedy in its mostly rubber stamp approvals once the issue has been heard, that it nonetheless is very time consuming to prepare the matter for the court and get it on the docket and heard. That shows that there is in fact an issue of urgency in many of these matters that is hampered by the entire process.
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