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Re: 100/200 blind war
I don't get this bet/fold advice given all the time here. I see it all the time and peoople forget the fold part and call anyways, so in general it sucks. I can't see anything than check/call in this spot
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Re: 100/200 blind war
if u check, it looks like you are prob calling, so i dont expect him to bluff here and i think youre a pretty big fav here to have the best hand, so i like betting and absolutely call a raise... checking just lets him check behind w/ a baby pair or Ahigh and i almost think a busted str8 is more likely to raise ruiver than bet if check to.
i say bet/call. |
#13
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Re: 100/200 blind war
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if u check, it looks like you are prob calling, so i dont expect him to bluff here and i think youre a pretty big fav here to have the best hand, so i like betting and absolutely call a raise... checking just lets him check behind w/ a baby pair or Ahigh and i almost think a busted str8 is more likely to raise ruiver than bet if check to. i say bet/call. bet/call. [/ QUOTE ] i guess the consensus is i give villian too much credit. i read BK's read as that he doesn't do that w/ Ahigh on the flop. wont peel with random hands and probably would just calll down w/ a 2. if im wrong then bet/call is better. Barron |
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Re: 100/200 blind war
i like check/call.
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Re: 100/200 blind war
i obviously dont disagree w/ your post as i realize you know much more than me; however could you please explain 1 "flaw" that seems to be in your logic?
If you bet; he needs to be bluffing >12% or so of the time for you to call; so if your bet/calling- he has a hand @ most 88% of the time correct? or would you be calling for metagame reasons? I never think about metagame b/c i dont play limit regularly; but i guess i shouldnt try n make these kinda folds? |
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Re: 100/200 blind war
dude, youll be getting 10:1... the vast majority of online 1/2 players are bluffing here 10% and folding is also bad 4 metagame, sure.
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Re: 100/200 blind war
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i say bet/call. [/ QUOTE ] Bet/call is a win 1 bet/lose 2 prop and, unless you're right 7 out of 10 times, a long term loser. Getting a worse hand to fold or when a worse one raises you is what makes the river bet/call a clear winner. I'm not sure that would be the case here. |
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Re: 100/200 blind war
you need to bet/call. bet because your kicker plays for your 8 and he may have an 8, plus he's calling with any other pair or A at least some of the time. call because the pot is pretty big and people do semi-random weird stuff in blind battles sometimes.
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Re: 100/200 blind war
You think he checks behind with an 8-smaller kicker? Or any pair for that matter?
By checking the river I think it would sure looks to villian like A or K high that will check call, so he's gonna value pretty much any pair. |
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Re: 100/200 blind war
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i obviously dont disagree w/ your post as i realize you know much more than me; however could you please explain 1 "flaw" that seems to be in your logic? If you bet; he needs to be bluffing >12% or so of the time for you to call; so if your bet/calling- he has a hand @ most 88% of the time correct? or would you be calling for metagame reasons? I never think about metagame b/c i dont play limit regularly; but i guess i shouldnt try n make these kinda folds? [/ QUOTE ] sure. the cost of calling and being completely wrong in that he will never ever bluff is the difference between your expectation if he bluffs 8% or 12% or whatever and the expectation if he never bluffs multiplied by the cost of the bet. the cost of folding in this spot in a blind war given the previous action 4handed 1/2 is much larger than the money you save by folding. you will face many more shots taken at you as you will have labelled yourself a folder. doing this, even the poor players or the normally semi-passive ones will cause all of the players to put you to tougher decisions than you would normally face forcing you into potentially larger mistakes than the X%*1bb mistake you'd make by calling. this is the way i think about it and i could definately be wrong, but in high limit poker, id choose to play against an easy to read person rather than a decent playing maniac any day of the week. Barron |
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