PP $200 - T8s flops two pair

swolfe · #1 12-17-2005, 05:32 PM

From someone with less than 20 VPIP, this flop 3-bet is always a set, right?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter

UTG+1 ($191)
MP1 ($198)
MP2 ($272.90)
Hero ($364.80)
CO ($174.81)
Button ($172.55)
SB ($185)
BB ($233.95)
UTG ($255)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
2 folds, MP1 calls $2, MP2 calls $2, Hero calls $2, 1 fold, Button calls $2, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($12) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB bets $8, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $30, Button folds, SB raises to $70, Hero ???

warlockjd · #2 12-17-2005, 06:15 PM

Not necessarily...I'd definitely want to know his aggression level overall and his flop aggression level.

If this was 6 max, I'd say the follwing: With top 2, I think your money needs to go in here. Given that he is in the blind, he could have T5o 85o, 76 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or 8x [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Now, that being said, I don't play full ring games so I'm curious about other replies.

swolfe · #3 12-18-2005, 05:05 AM

villain's full stats are 13/3/0 in 55 hands.

Gregg777 · #4 12-18-2005, 05:39 PM

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villain's full stats are 13/3/0 in 55 hands.

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I would be extremely uncomfortable getting my money in against a player with those stats, out of position, not afraid of my raise.

It's a fairly safe idea to drop two pair against weak nits who suddenly wake up, without a very good reason not to fold.

Hattifnatt · #5 12-18-2005, 05:42 PM

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villain's full stats are 13/3/0 in 55 hands.

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I would try to get everything in the middle, 55 hands is not very much. If you had 150+ hands I would consider folding the 2 pair.

jkkkk · #6 12-18-2005, 06:27 PM

hes SB and 55 hands is nothing, he could easily have some other weird two-pair combo, I get my $ in here.

Bukem_ · #7 12-18-2005, 06:38 PM

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villain's full stats are 13/3/0 in 55 hands.

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Enough to know his is a nit. I'd drop it.

swolfe · #8 12-19-2005, 02:05 AM

well, against my better judgement, i called and continued with the hand, getting it all in on the turn. villain had 88.

Wayfare · #9 12-19-2005, 02:15 AM

When a 13/3 guy three bets you, just fold.

diconoclastx · #10 12-19-2005, 05:57 AM

just shove it in... u are even money against a big draw and if he has 55 he gets my money. he might have a lower2 pair which many turn cards can scare him (and maybe you) off. so get it in now.